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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 6:42 pm
(April 15, 2016 at 6:34 pm)abaris Wrote: (April 15, 2016 at 6:30 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Actually, Marx claimed to be a scientist, a socio-economic scientist whose scientific prediction was the immanent and future development of capitalism into socialism by means of the worker revolution.
Citation needed.
Due warning. The early Marx isn't the same as the late Marx, coworking with Engels, who's quite an interesting figure in his own right.
I don't have a citation. That claim is drawn from a mix of things taken on authority and a paraphrase of Marx's predictive writings about the future of capitalism. I will gladly retract the claim if you'd like.
But now I'm curious. If Marx was a philosopher, isn't what he was doing with his philosophy ultimately "useless as garbage"?
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 6:44 pm
How does posting that picture help put food in people's bellies?
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 7:05 pm
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2016 at 7:07 pm by abaris.)
(April 15, 2016 at 6:42 pm)Ignorant Wrote: But now I'm curious. If Marx was a philosopher, isn't what he was doing with his philosophy ultimately "useless as garbage"?
You know what I said. And your dishonesty in paraphrasing me wrongly doesn't change that.
But for your convenience, I may repeat, for anyone striving to survive, philosophy is garbage. And by the way, thanks for the confirmation, you were talking out of your ass.
(April 15, 2016 at 6:44 pm)Ignorant Wrote: How does posting that picture help put food in people's bellies?
It just points to what you ultimately are. if that's OK with you. And that's the most friendly interpretation, since I still roll with troll.
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 7:10 pm
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2016 at 7:10 pm by Ignorant.)
"A troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, often for their own amusement." -Wikipedia
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 7:11 pm
Ok, so find a mirror for confirmation.
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 7:12 pm
(April 15, 2016 at 7:05 pm)abaris Wrote: (April 15, 2016 at 6:42 pm)Ignorant Wrote: But now I'm curious. If Marx was a philosopher, isn't what he was doing with his philosophy ultimately "useless as garbage"?
You know what I said. And your dishonesty in paraphrasing me wrongly doesn't change that.
But for your convenience, I may repeat, for anyone striving to survive, philosophy is garbage. And by the way, thanks for the confirmation, you were talking out of your ass.
(April 15, 2016 at 6:44 pm)Ignorant Wrote: How does posting that picture help put food in people's bellies?
It just points to what you ultimately are. if that's OK with you. And that's the most friendly interpretation, since I still roll with troll.
Well I appreciate your kindness, and I apologize for any apparent dishonesty.
Look abaris, if you prefer that I shut up, just say so.
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 7:17 pm
(April 15, 2016 at 7:12 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Look abaris, if you prefer that I shut up, just say so.
No, no, I'm enjoying this. I've seen better, but still.
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 7:19 pm
Things I do not have the freedom to do:
-Detach and re-attach my legs at will.
-Eat Mount Cook.
-Spin straw into gold.
-Celebrate National Ferret-Weaving Day with a practical demonstration.
-Fly without mechanical assistance.
-Lay eggs.
-Successfully sue the God of Abraham for eight billion trillion cases of malfeasance in office.
-Teach an ant to tune a banjo.
-Wrap my willy all the way round me waist (and don't think I haven't tried).
-Force my coffee mug to sing an aria.
Clearly, then, human freedom does not exist.
Stupid fucking question.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 7:21 pm
(April 15, 2016 at 7:17 pm)abaris Wrote: (April 15, 2016 at 7:12 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Look abaris, if you prefer that I shut up, just say so.
No, no, I'm enjoying this. I've seen better, but still.
Well I am not particularly enjoying this. What, exactly, am I doing that is drawing so much disdain from you? What can I do?
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 7:21 pm
(April 15, 2016 at 7:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Things I do not have the freedom to do:
-Detach and re-attach my legs at will.
-Eat Mount Cook.
-Spin straw into gold.
-Celebrate National Ferret-Weaving Day with a practical demonstration.
-Fly without mechanical assistance.
-Lay eggs.
-Successfully sue the God of Abraham for eight billion trillion cases of malfeasance in office.
-Teach an ant to tune a banjo.
-Wrap my willy all the way round me waist (and don't think I haven't tried).
-Force my coffee mug to sing an aria.
Clearly, then, human freedom does not exist.
Stupid fucking question.
Boru
And eat, if you haven't got the funds to do so.
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