Where is torikul91? I gave them a nice welcome and wrote a huge post just for them. They asked a question (maybe in their mind a rhetorical one) and I answered. Quran 41:12 clearly contradicts torikul91's understanding of Quran 21:30.

(March 11, 2016 at 3:44 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(March 10, 2016 at 7:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You know the correlation goes the other way over here, it's the believers that think that only the wealthy deserve treatment, demographically.

Wealthy and white, right?
The Zionist Christian lobby in the U.S is such a mess.

Close, except not, poor and believing.  Brute force of demographics is all.  Nothing to do with zionism, but I guess it would be just as difficult for you to let go of your jewnoia as it is to get our nutballs to let go of theirs.

(March 11, 2016 at 3:44 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Stimbo

Saying the the religion is violent when it's not, is something I got to refer to.
And that includes indirect references embedded in sarcasm

But I didn't say that. Fuck's sake. Look, you can take offence at whatever rings your little bell; but unless you prove I am guilty of doing it, I'll thank you to keep me out of your fantasies.

(March 11, 2016 at 3:44 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(March 10, 2016 at 7:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You know the correlation goes the other way over here, it's the believers that think that only the wealthy deserve treatment, demographically.

Wealthy and white, right?
The Zionist Christian lobby in the U.S is such a mess.

Are you so devoid of thought and morality that all you can do when others counter your points, you hurl libelous insults at them?

I thought I should add, You muslims heard wrong, It's not Allah it's Al Dente.

RAmen.

I am kind of new to the forums, and the Vsauce video "Math Magic" actually explains this very very well. (Since this is relevant to the discussion I assume I am covered by the exception of the 30/30 rule). Here is a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObiqJzfyACM. The very beginning of the video explains concidences like this. These are pure coincidences, I can assure you that. When I myself was a muslim I also stumbled upon these, including the so called scientific miracles of the Quran. Many religious people twist a lot of things in their scriptures and add lots of bullshit interpretations in order to fool themselves that there is proof for the Qur'an. 

Regarding the so called scientific "miracles" in the Qur'an all of it is taken from the ancient Egyptians, ancient Sumerians, Babylonians, ancient Greeks, and added into the Qur'an (which means it was possible to know about it so long time ago without the help of God, and also that the Qur'an isn't really God's words). As an example muslims claim that the Qur'an knew the earth was spherical long before modern science, and they'll ask "How did they possible know without the help from God?". Well, actually Pythagoras knew that the earth was spherical, I believe around 569-475 BCE. I'm telling you this so you know that what you mentioned is pure coincidence, and I'm telling you the rest so you know what tricks religious people play, and I don't want you to spread the myth that there are scientific miracles in the Qur'an and claim it as proof.

(May 12, 2012 at 10:12 am)jain.rahul Wrote: I have been given this reason by a muslim that god exists.

Number of times the word "Moon" appears in the Qur’an = 27
Time it takes the Moon to travel round the Earth (in days) = 27

Number of times the word “land” appears in the Qur’an = 13
Number of times the word “sea” appears in the Qur’an = 32
Proportion of dry land to sea covering the Earth = 13/45 = 29%
Proportion of sea to dry land on Earth = 32/45 = 71%

The star Sirius appears in the Surah called an-Najm, meaning “Star.” The stars comprising Sirius approach one another in their courses once every 49.9 years. This astronomic phenomenon is indicated in verses 49 and 9 of Surat an-Najm.

Al-Hadid is the 57th Surah of the Qur’an, and the numerical value of the words al-Hadid is also 57.
The value of the word "hadid" alone is 26, and this is also the atomic number of iron.

The word “day (yavm)" appears 365 times in the Qur’an.
It takes the Earth 365 days to orbit the Sun.

The words “man” and “woman” both appear 23 times in the Qur’an.
The 23rd chromosome is the main element that determines an individual’s gender.

Verse 19:57 of the Qur’an speaks of “raising to a high place.”
"Sputnik 1," the first unmanned satellite, was launched in 1957.

Surat an-Nahl, meaning “Bee,” is the 16th Surah.
The bee has 16 chromosomes.

This proves that Quran is the word of God.
I haven't read Quran myself to refute these arguments. Any advises?

I'd sooner accept this as proof that the Quran was written by a troll with a time machine.

they make no sense tbh anyway everyonr can play with numbers and assume things . plus the word could have many different meanings .

All holy books and holy writings of all religions worldwide are not evidence of anything outside that someone wrote them and others believe them.

(April 17, 2016 at 6:07 am)Brian37 Wrote: All holy books and holy writings of all religions worldwide are not evidence of anything outside that someone wrote them and others believe them.

Are you saying that demons and zombies aren't real?