(April 1, 2009 at 7:36 am)Giff Wrote:

(April 1, 2009 at 7:18 am)twawki Wrote: Also what about quantum physics - as Ive been reading there is proof for 10 dimensions. Could spirituality not exist in a number of those dimensions - the book of Enoch talks about this (not in all Bibles). Could these dimensions explain the unexplainable in my life?

No

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics

you wanna elucidate!

(March 26, 2009 at 5:07 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:

(March 25, 2009 at 5:23 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Where did I lie about you Kyu?

QUOTE: I don't think you're engaging me at all Kyu. It seems entirely pointless to carry on with this yes you did, no you didn't interchange.

Happy?

Kyu

No. I shan't bother asking the question again.

I think I know what your saying Twawki, though personally I feel the label of christian doesn't fit (technically it should but, it's peoples perceptions I'm talking about).

I mean, if you beleive that a god exists your not an atheist, your also not automatically a christian. You could be an agnostic theist for example. Or you could say you follow Jesus but, in reality your just trying to be a good person, which you can do as a member of any faith, or lack thereof.

So while I'm interested in hearing more from you I don't think the labels your using fit, and would have a few questions to ask but, not in this thread. It would be better off in it's own thread.

(April 2, 2009 at 2:48 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 26, 2009 at 5:07 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: QUOTE: I don't think you're engaging me at all Kyu. It seems entirely pointless to carry on with this yes you did, no you didn't interchange.

Happy?

No. I shan't bother asking the question again.

So you accept that you're a liar then?

Kyu

(April 2, 2009 at 4:36 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:

(April 2, 2009 at 2:48 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 26, 2009 at 5:07 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: QUOTE: I don't think you're engaging me at all Kyu. It seems entirely pointless to carry on with this yes you did, no you didn't interchange.

Happy?

No. I shan't bother asking the question again.

So you accept that you're a liar then?

Kyu

I have no idea what you're talking about Kyu. 'whoosh' as you'd say.

(April 2, 2009 at 5:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: [quote='Kyuuketsuki' pid='13006' dateline='1238704599']
[quote='fr0d0' pid='13000' dateline='1238698088'][quote='Kyuuketsuki' pid='12492' dateline='1238058468']QUOTE: I don't think you're engaging me at all Kyu. It seems entirely pointless to carry on with this yes you did, no you didn't interchange.

Happy?

No. I answer your questions, you say I am not engaging your questions, I say you're lying, you ask me where I think you lied, I quote the relevant thing you said, you dodge the point, I ask if you accept you are a liar and you go whoosh!

And you wonder why I say you're disingenuous? You know I'm beginning to think you're engaged on some kind of mission to get me to call you a moron just so you can point out that there's some kind on inequality because I don't get punished. If you want me to call you an idiot, I'll call you an idiot ... is that what you want?

Kyu

I think it's quite obvious Kyu that I'm saying that the points you have made, in my opinion, don't address my points. You refuse to accept this and call me a liar??

I have no doubt that you could say what you like and flaunt the rules.

This is pointless. Please lets leave this alone and move on.

(April 2, 2009 at 6:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I think it's quite obvious Kyu that I'm saying that the points you have made, in my opinion, don't address my points. You refuse to accept this and call me a liar??

And I think it self-evident that you are being disingenuous in claiming that I was not dealing with the points you made and the fact is that you did fail to answer points that I made.

(April 2, 2009 at 6:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I have no doubt that you could say what you like and flaunt the rules.

I very much doubt Adrian would keep me on as a moderator were I to behave in such a fashion (or indeed in the fashion that you do) ... at the very least I would be apologising to you.

(April 2, 2009 at 6:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: This is pointless. Please lets leave this alone and move on.

No. Please point out to me the points you claim I have not answered and I will review them and reply. As I said earlier, you wonder why I say you're disingenuous? I think I have justified that POV.

TBBH if I was really that far off the mark on what is, let's face it, not very nice if the assertion is untrue I would have shot down in flames by other forum members AND would have been hauled across the coals by Adrian with predictable results. That that hasn't happened suggests a lot more about you than it does about me and ultimately, you can resolve this fairly easily by simply dealing with the points made.

Kyu

(April 2, 2009 at 6:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I think it's quite obvious Kyu that I'm saying that the points you have made, in my opinion, don't address my points. You refuse to accept this and call me a liar??

I have no doubt that you could say what you like and flaunt the rules.

This is pointless. Please lets leave this alone and move on.

Frodo, as far as I can see and I'm guessing the rest of the forum, you are the one avoiding questions and points. You've done it before and you're doing it again. Rather than avoiding the topic as a whole, I think you would be better off simply admitting that you don't know, or that you can't back it up however you will be anyway. This going back and forth is getting no one anywhere.

From my point of view, Kyuu has you here.

I've mostly been staying out of things but, Kyuu points out something worth considering for sure. We may all be atheists but, we are in no other way on the same side automatically and I think most of us have said at least one thing that had other members of the board directly opposing them. So we don't protect our own just because they are talking to a theist or anything like that.