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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm
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Just goes to show you that the chosen people couldn't trip over a rock without feeling the overriding compulsion to worship it. With standards that low, it's not really surprising that they made the choices they did when it came to Yahweh.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 1, 2016 at 4:35 pm
(June 30, 2016 at 7:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 30, 2016 at 1:05 pm)Ayen Wrote: This is what happens when you accept the premise that anything is possible. Without things like 'reason,' 'logic,' 'reality,' and putting them into objectivity you could find yourself questioning reality itself and driving yourself into madness.
You must have skipped over my reply, or just ignored it for your convenience. The atheist here are starting to get quite childish over this small thing, grow-up.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm
(July 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Just goes to show you that the chosen people couldn't trip over a rock without feeling the overriding compulsion to worship it. With standards that low, it's not really surprising that they made the choices they did when it came to Yahweh. The ancient Israelites/Hebrews/Jews had to have been the most superstitious twits of all time.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 1, 2016 at 4:44 pm
(July 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (July 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Just goes to show you that the chosen people couldn't trip over a rock without feeling the overriding compulsion to worship it. With standards that low, it's not really surprising that they made the choices they did when it came to Yahweh. The ancient Israelites/Hebrews/Jews had to have been the most superstitious twits of all time.
I think today's christians are giving them a pretty good run for their money.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 1, 2016 at 5:03 pm
(June 30, 2016 at 2:24 pm)alpha male Wrote: We're created in his image. We each give special treatment to some people. I don't see why this is puzzling to you.
Are you sure it's not the other way around?
You give special treatment to some people (fair enough), and this is why your god, made in your image, does the same?
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 2, 2016 at 11:28 am
(July 1, 2016 at 4:13 am)Ayen Wrote: (June 30, 2016 at 7:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: You must have skipped over my reply, or just ignored it for your convenience. The atheist here are starting to get quite childish over this small thing, grow-up.
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You must have missed my post a few pages back where I tried to find a common ground between the theists and atheists in this thread. Perhaps you shouldn't tell people to grow up when the criticism can be so easily deflected back at you.
So you're not going to answer my first post to you.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 2, 2016 at 2:30 pm
(July 2, 2016 at 11:28 am)Godschild Wrote: (July 1, 2016 at 4:13 am)Ayen Wrote: You must have missed my post a few pages back where I tried to find a common ground between the theists and atheists in this thread. Perhaps you shouldn't tell people to grow up when the criticism can be so easily deflected back at you.
So you're not going to answer my first post to you.
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Your first post wasn't really a question as much as it was an explanation and a possibility I've considered with a long list of other possibilities that are just as likely. It's only when/if we can find an objective way to view things and demonstrate them that we can start to narrow it down, and if there is none, then how do you narrow them down? You're right about this much at least:
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 2, 2016 at 4:37 pm
The main problem with the exodus story is not their stupidity in making the golden calf. It's the premise that we're supposed to believe they continued with their Jewish (or pre-Jewish) traditions, and maintained their spoken language, throughout 400 years of slavery. Africans have been in America for almost 400 years, over a century of which was not involving slavery, and their cultural identity is gone as fuck. They don't know the language of their ancestors or even their names. The majority of African Americans are Christian.
And yet somehow we are supposed to believe that the Jews did not borrow any Egyptian mythology, culture, or language? Dafuq? Noah's flood takes the cake as far as Biblical stupidity, but this Egyptian slavery claim is underrated and should be up there.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 2, 2016 at 10:09 pm
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(July 2, 2016 at 4:37 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: The main problem with the exodus story is not their stupidity in making the golden calf. It's the premise that we're supposed to believe they continued with their Jewish (or pre-Jewish) traditions, and maintained their spoken language, throughout 400 years of slavery. Africans have been in America for almost 400 years, over a century of which was not involving slavery, and their cultural identity is gone as fuck. They don't know the language of their ancestors or even their names. The majority of African Americans are Christian.
And yet somehow we are supposed to believe that the Jews did not borrow any Egyptian mythology, culture, or language? Dafuq? Noah's flood takes the cake as far as Biblical stupidity, but this Egyptian slavery claim is underrated and should be up there.
Not even close to being the same, The people taken from Africa weren't all from the same culture, they were separated from their families and robbed of their names on top of it; so it would be impossible to maintain any type of cultural identity in that situation.
The Hebrews on the other hand were all from one culture, they were already settled in Goshen; which remained separate from the Egyptians even after they were enslaved, and families were not broken up. Therefore it is much easier to maintain their cultural identity.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 3, 2016 at 1:50 am
(July 2, 2016 at 10:09 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (July 2, 2016 at 4:37 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: The main problem with the exodus story is not their stupidity in making the golden calf. It's the premise that we're supposed to believe they continued with their Jewish (or pre-Jewish) traditions, and maintained their spoken language, throughout 400 years of slavery. Africans have been in America for almost 400 years, over a century of which was not involving slavery, and their cultural identity is gone as fuck. They don't know the language of their ancestors or even their names. The majority of African Americans are Christian.
And yet somehow we are supposed to believe that the Jews did not borrow any Egyptian mythology, culture, or language? Dafuq? Noah's flood takes the cake as far as Biblical stupidity, but this Egyptian slavery claim is underrated and should be up there.
Not even close to being the same, The people taken from Africa weren't all from the same culture, they were separated from their families and robbed of their names on top of it; so it would be impossible to maintain any type of cultural identity in that situation.
The Hebrews on the other hand were all from one culture, they were already settled in Goshen; which remained separate from the Egyptians even after they were enslaved, and families were not broken up. Therefore it is much easier to maintain their cultural identity.
Ok. Differences noted. So you are saying that with those differences, it is plausible for a group to be saturated in another culture for 400 years and show no signs of being influenced? That's reasonable to you?
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