(July 4, 2016 at 1:26 am)Nymphadora Wrote: I just wish we could move past the whole thing.

Well, I'm invading Texas and opening "death camps" in a few weeks.

Then I'm burning down Ken Ham.

Hey, you can't make death threats against important public figures...

Never mind.

(July 4, 2016 at 1:32 am)robvalue Wrote: Hey, you can't make death threats against important public figures...

Never mind.

Who said kill?

I only mentioned burning down...

(July 4, 2016 at 1:26 am)Nymphadora Wrote: I just wish we could move past the whole thing.

(July 4, 2016 at 1:27 am)robvalue Wrote: I would enjoy that very much.

Yep. The shame is that the crows keep cawing about it.

hehe

Whateverist the White Wrote:I assume there would have been a rupture between those who think the right ideals are all that should matter and those who think no one (Tiberius) should have to lose money to maintain a non-sexist policy regarding nudity and pornography.

It wasn't the right ideals either. Reducing the freedoms of one group so both groups can be equally unfairly limited makes no sense. As I said before, let's say hypothetically there was a school where only girls were being bullied and for sake of argument let's say there's no way to reduce the bullying even remotely. Encouraging bullies to bully the boys too so both sexes could be bullied equally would not be a solution.

Isn't this logic the exact same logic which forces Muslim women in some countries to cover up their faces in public?

Yes it is a man's world. It sucks and it's unfair on so many levels.

As a species, we are still very primitive in that respect.

Religion has a lot to answer for also in moulding cultures.

Only because fools believe the holy books to be inerrant.

Bullshit. It was written by men, for men. Another reason why religion is holding back humanity.

Except, she wasn't calling for bullying, but solidarity.

(July 4, 2016 at 3:12 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Except, she wasn't calling for bullying, but solidarity.

Awesome, and I was happy to show solidarity by censoring any posting of male nipples I had on my agenda - which was none. However, that did not seem to be what the ask was.

The ask seemed to be that the staff enforce that on everyone, which is an entirely different kettle of fish.

It was an analogy. Obviously it's not about bullying but that's irrelevant to the analogy.

Limiting freedoms is unfair.
Bullying is unfair.
Limiting the freedoms of both sexes is twice as unfair as limiting the freedoms of one sex.
Bullying both sexes is twice as unfair as bullying one sex.

Obviously it's not about bullying, the point is both limiting freedoms and bullying is an example of unfair treatment and being unfair to everyone is not fair. It's unfair to everyone.