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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 4:04 pm
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(July 19, 2016 at 3:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (July 19, 2016 at 3:19 pm)RobertE Wrote: Who me?
Listen, at the end of the day, if the Scots want to vote for their independance, regardless of what happens to brexit, then again, my opinion is that it should be granted.
LOL, no, Bella, actually. I'm with you on that one. Bellas become infamous on the boards for a "UK because self determination, lol fuck scotland" stance since Brexit. Nominally scottish too...been wondering about that, actually. Kind of a riddle...to me.
Infamous? Woo hoo!
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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 4:05 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 4:01 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (July 19, 2016 at 3:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: LOL, no, Bella, actually. I'm with you on that one. Bellas become infamous on the boards for a "UK because self determination, lol fuck scotland" stance since Brexit. Nominally scottish too...been wondering about that, actually. Kind of a riddle...to me.
I'm assuming that her parents are Tory voters. Possibly even from the south of England originally. I used to be a Tory voter at her age because I was raised in a Tory voting Daily Mail reading household on the south coast of England. The parent's political views are normally the biggest influence on how people vote. Even today I still can't bring myself to vote Labour. And we all know on this forum how strong childhood conditioning can be. It's not just religion.
It takes a concerted effort to challenge your own conditioning and to question your own assumptions. Propaganda works for a reason.
The only thing my father disliked about me was the idea of supporting Manchester United, liking Sir Alex Ferguson and wanting Stephen Hendry to win the World Championship at the crucible. For the politics and the religion, at 11 years of age, I have no leanings in politics and I am agnostic (roughly 5.5 on the Dawkins scale) in my religious, or non-religious leanings.
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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 4:09 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 4:01 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (July 19, 2016 at 3:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: LOL, no, Bella, actually. I'm with you on that one. Bellas become infamous on the boards for a "UK because self determination, lol fuck scotland" stance since Brexit. Nominally scottish too...been wondering about that, actually. Kind of a riddle...to me.
I'm assuming that her parents are Tory voters. Possibly even from the south of England originally. I used to be a Tory voter at her age because I was raised in a Tory voting Daily Mail reading household on the south coast of England. The parent's political views are normally the biggest influence on how people vote. Even today I still can't bring myself to vote Labour. And we all know on this forum how strong childhood conditioning can be. It's not just religion.
It takes a concerted effort to challenge your own conditioning and to question your own assumptions. Propaganda works for a reason.
Born and bred in Scotland, actually.
My mother isn't exactly interested in politics. Ask my father what he supports if you can track the bastard down. I formed the majority of my opinions on my own.
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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 4:10 pm
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I hear they have some oil, too, Rob. Might come in handy.
(you know how much people like me think about oil...lol  )
An independant scotland with independant oil might even be able to negotiate an even more special relationship.
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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 4:10 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 4:09 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Born and bred in Scotland, actually.
My mother isn't exactly interested in politics. Ask my father what he supports if you can track the bastard down. I formed the majority of my opinions on my own.
Fair enough.
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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 4:19 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 4:03 pm)RobertE Wrote: Indeed, Scotland could be a major player in selling it trees and take the strain of the rainforests...... 
In all seriousness though, you'd be surprised how much wood costs. I certainly was when I had a single 25 metre beech tree cut down from my garden in Germany. It cost us several hundred Euros but to buy it as firewood would have cost us several times more. Most land in Scotland isn't even properly used any more since the clearances. Most of the highlands are a rich man's playground. Half of Scotland is owned by 432 families. Much of the highlands is left barren so land owners can shoot some grouse and deer when they feel like it. The land is squandered.
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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 4:26 pm
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Tempting me to emigrate......I'm kindof land crazy. Is it really that under-exploited? Does the law stand in the way?
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July 19, 2016 at 4:27 pm
I have Irish citizenship.
Sorted.
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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 6:43 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 4:09 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: (July 19, 2016 at 4:01 pm)Mathilda Wrote: I'm assuming that her parents are Tory voters. Possibly even from the south of England originally. I used to be a Tory voter at her age because I was raised in a Tory voting Daily Mail reading household on the south coast of England. The parent's political views are normally the biggest influence on how people vote. Even today I still can't bring myself to vote Labour. And we all know on this forum how strong childhood conditioning can be. It's not just religion.
It takes a concerted effort to challenge your own conditioning and to question your own assumptions. Propaganda works for a reason.
Born and bred in Scotland, actually.
My mother isn't exactly interested in politics. Ask my father what he supports if you can track the bastard down. I formed the majority of my opinions on my own.
Interesting discussion about assumptions this.
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RE: UK to leave EU
July 19, 2016 at 6:58 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 6:43 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (July 19, 2016 at 4:09 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Born and bred in Scotland, actually.
My mother isn't exactly interested in politics. Ask my father what he supports if you can track the bastard down. I formed the majority of my opinions on my own.
Interesting discussion about assumptions this.
You just can't help laugh, to be honest.
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