(October 23, 2016 at 12:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "Priests are parasites"
"blacks are criminals"
"Muslims are terrorists"

.... Not one of these statements is more or less bigoted than the others.

To your list I would also add:
"The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good."
And:
"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

As far as the OP, I'd agree that the clergy was/is a parasite in those societies wherein public funds were used to support their racket. Otherwise, I see no difference in the services they allegedly provide and any other form of intoxication or distraction that one can acquire.

(October 23, 2016 at 12:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "Priests are parasites"
"blacks are criminals"
"Muslims are terrorists"

.... Not one of these statements is more or less bigoted than the others.

let's analyze. both blacks and muslims have a reputation of crime and terrorism. a priest doesn't have the reputation of being a parasite, but of morality and nobility.so when you generalize you get stuff like all people are like that, but in the case of priest the bigot point of view would be that priest are kind, moral and noble.

what I did it's actually called drawing the line. it's like saying black are in fact impotent.

(October 23, 2016 at 1:07 pm)jebus Wrote: let's analyze. both blacks and muslims have a reputation of crime and terrorism. a priest doesn't have the reputation of being a parasite, but of morality and nobility.so when you generalize you get stuff like all people are like that, but in the case of priest the bigot point of view would be that priest are kind, moral and noble.

what I did it's actually called drawing the line. it's like saying black are in fact impotent.

Are you.... Fucking stupid?

(October 23, 2016 at 12:26 pm)pgrimes15 Wrote: Priests in alliance with the depot? There's a joke in there somewhere but I haven't got the wit to think of one.

probability in ireland they would have been in alliance with the distillery

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(October 23, 2016 at 1:10 pm)Mudhammam Wrote:

(October 23, 2016 at 1:07 pm)jebus Wrote: let's analyze. both blacks and muslims have a reputation of crime and terrorism. a priest doesn't have the reputation of being a parasite, but of morality and nobility.so when you generalize you get stuff like all people are like that, but in the case of priest the bigot point of view would be that priest are kind, moral and noble.

what I did it's actually called drawing the line. it's like saying black are in fact impotent.

Are you.... Fucking stupid?

why don't you watch your mouth? this is not facebook

(October 23, 2016 at 1:13 pm)jebus Wrote: why don't you watch your mouth? this is not facebook

In other words, yes. Yes, you are fucking stupid.

(October 23, 2016 at 12:41 pm)abaris Wrote:

(October 23, 2016 at 12:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: An untrained man rambling on about 'god' won't do anything for one who isn't desperate to believe him in the first place.  That's why they don't get paid.  Shrinks have professional standards.

Catholic priests do get paid. Not a fortune, but given that they get free lodgings and food on the table, it's more than sufficient. And they have to have a university degree in theology. I'm not into defending theology as being science, but at the very least it requires some ground work, as opposed to evangelical pastors.

This is correct. They make an average of $33k a year. 

Which is why I think it's silly to call them parasites. I'm sure the vast majority of them could make much more money and live a much more lucrative lifestyle by doing something else. 

My husband always wanted to be a pilot ever since he was 6 years old. But he went through a phase during high school (before we dated) where he seriously considered being a priest. Obviously it wasn't for the sake of being a greedy parasite, since he knew he'd make much more $$ as a pilot. It was for the genuine desire to be of service to those who would need it. 

My good friend Brad had a very similar story. Brilliant kid. Got straight A's in high school, super smart, and went to school for dentistry to make a ton of $$ like his dad. But some time during his first year of school, he decided he wanted to serve others as a protestant minister instead. They make more $$ than priests but still not much, usually at least. He's a pastor at a church in North Carolina now and lives an extremely humble life. 

Labeling these people parasites is offensive to who they are as people and so extremely off the mark.

(October 23, 2016 at 1:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(October 23, 2016 at 12:41 pm)abaris Wrote: Catholic priests do get paid. Not a fortune, but given that they get free lodgings and food on the table, it's more than sufficient. And they have to have a university degree in theology. I'm not into defending theology as being science, but at the very least it requires some ground work, as opposed to evangelical pastors.

This is correct. They make an average of $33k a year. 

Which is why I think it's silly to call them parasites. I'm sure the vast majority of them could make much more money and live a much more lucrative lifestyle by doing something else. 

My husband always wanted to be a pilot ever since he was 6 years old. But he went through a phase during high school (before we dated) where he seriously considered being a priest. Obviously it wasn't for the sake of being a greedy parasite, since he knew he'd make much more $$ as a pilot. It was for the genuine desire to be of service to those who would need it. 

My good friend Brad had a very similar story. Brilliant kid. Got straight A's in high school, super smart, and went to school for dentistry to make a ton of $$ like his dad. But some time during his first year of school, he decided he wanted to serve others as a protestant minister instead. They make more $$ than priests but still not much, usually at least. He's a pastor at a church in North Carolina now and lives an extremely humble life. 

Labeling these people parasites is offensive to who they are as people and so extremely off the mark.

What a goal for a young man in the prime of his life! Become a eunuch that spreads fairy tales to gullible adults.

(October 23, 2016 at 1:54 pm)chimp3 Wrote:

(October 23, 2016 at 1:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This is correct. They make an average of $33k a year. 

Which is why I think it's silly to call them parasites. I'm sure the vast majority of them could make much more money and live a much more lucrative lifestyle by doing something else. 

My husband always wanted to be a pilot ever since he was 6 years old. But he went through a phase during high school (before we dated) where he seriously considered being a priest. Obviously it wasn't for the sake of being a greedy parasite, since he knew he'd make much more $$ as a pilot. It was for the genuine desire to be of service to those who would need it. 

My good friend Brad had a very similar story. Brilliant kid. Got straight A's in high school, super smart, and went to school for dentistry to make a ton of $$ like his dad. But some time during his first year of school, he decided he wanted to serve others as a protestant minister instead. They make more $$ than priests but still not much, usually at least. He's a pastor at a church in North Carolina now and lives an extremely humble life. 

Labeling these people parasites is offensive to who they are as people and so extremely off the mark.

What a goal for a young man in the prime of his life! Become a eunuch that spreads fairy tales to gullible adults.

He majored in psychology before going on to seminary school and specializes in counseling with children and families going through rough times. As a pastor, this comes as no extra pay from them.  

He chose to give up a career that would make him lots of money to do what he believes in with all his heart and what he truly thinks will bring great service to others. I get you don't have the same beliefs, but it's a shame you can't appreciate something like that, even on a level of principle.

Incidentally he's actually been told the same condescending remarks by 2 close friends he had growing up. Both of which are atheist.

(October 23, 2016 at 2:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(October 23, 2016 at 1:54 pm)chimp3 Wrote: What a goal for a young man in the prime of his life! Become a eunuch that spreads fairy tales to gullible adults.

He majored in psychology before going on to seminary school and specializes in counseling with children and families going through rough times. As a pastor, this comes as no extra pay from them.  

He chose to give up a career that would make him lots of money to do what he believes in with all his heart and what he truly thinks will bring great service to others. I get you don't have the same beliefs, but it's a shame you can't appreciate something like that, even on a level of principle.

Incidentally he's actually been told the same condescending remarks by 2 close friends he had growing up. Both of which are atheist.

I was referring to the priesthood. Not to being a counseler.

first I get flamed, twice, then the gorgeous cat lady has some moral objections and hearted arguments. probably to much PC culture for people with Pocket Cash. you may live in a safe space zone, but in reality people are living on the edge, trying to do something. but their place is now filled with bullshit. their remuneration belongs to the robe wearing men and they are now regarded as the problem. this is when atheism stops being a simple ideology and becomes an instrument of quality control.