Given that Brian lives in a declared Catholic country whose laws are explicitly influenced by the Vatican I`d say he has every right to be concerned.

I didn't realize Kiwiland was Catholic ...

(October 25, 2016 at 4:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Don't these people have anything worthwhile to do?

Vatican Bans keeping loved ones ashes at home.

It isn't enough that they want to control how you're conceived, born, live, learn, love, marry and die, NOW they want to tell you what you can or cannot do with the ashes of your dear departed.

Dear Vatican:

Shut the fuck up, and give that Ethiopian kid a sandwich.

Boru

And a bag of condoms.

-snip-

(October 27, 2016 at 6:23 am)Mr Greene Wrote: Given that Brian lives in a declared Catholic country whose laws are explicitly influenced by the Vatican I`d say he has every right to be concerned.

My mother would be pissed, if she listened to the pope on stuff like this. She wants to be spread around a few landmarks back at her home parish, after the medical school are done using her body to teach students/do research.

Edit: feck, forgot I don't go by my own name on this forum.

(October 27, 2016 at 9:15 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I didn't realize Kiwiland was Catholic ...

He originally comes from Ireland, far as I know. Up until the late 90ies that was the next thing to a christian theocracy. But they made some good efforts pushing the clergy back these last few decades. Not least of all in their overwhelming vote for gay marriage.

(October 27, 2016 at 10:11 am)abaris Wrote:

(October 27, 2016 at 9:15 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I didn't realize Kiwiland was Catholic ...

He originally comes from Ireland, far as I know. Up until the late 90ies that was the next thing to a christian theocracy. But they made some good efforts pushing the clergy back these last few decades. Not least of all in their overwhelming vote for gay marriage.

Northern Ireland, from what I remember.

(October 27, 2016 at 10:11 am)abaris Wrote:

(October 27, 2016 at 9:15 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I didn't realize Kiwiland was Catholic ...

He originally comes from Ireland, far as I know. Up until the late 90ies that was the next thing to a christian theocracy. But they made some good efforts pushing the clergy back these last few decades. Not least of all in their overwhelming vote for gay marriage.

Oh, I know ... I was addressing the present-tense usage in the other post.

I've thought that when I die I'd like to be cremated and have my ashes dumped from an old railroad bridge into the creek I used to spend a lot of time at when I was a kid. I just enjoyed going down there and enjoying nature. However, my sometimes-Catholic wife, upon hearing this latest edict from the pope likely wouldn't carry out my wishes.

Frankly, I'm surprised they allow cremation now since years ago when I still cared they didn't allow it at all. The rationale is pretty silly, too: When we die our bodies go into the ground, then on the last day when God destroys the earth, our bodies rise up out of the grave and join us in Heaven. Or at least that's how it was explained to me. Which sounds like a great idea, I flit around as an incorporeal soul in Heaven, then one day here comes my putrid, rotting corpse which I have to now wear again. Sure, that's going to be real nice as I try to talk to the likes of famous historical figures or try to make time with the hotties in Heaven. Ever try a pickup line while maggots fall out of your mouth? I could just die. Again.

But apparently somehow when you get cremated your ashes can't just fly up to heaven to join your soul like a skeleton and a bunch of dust can, according to Catholic doctrine.

(October 25, 2016 at 5:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Because dictating what private individuals do is anathema to me.

As you asked in the OP...don't you have anything better to do? Reading up on a religion you don't subscribe to then bitching about that religion's rules in a place where very few of the religion's adherents will see your complaint is pretty pointless.

As others have noted, it's a voluntary relationship. If people don't want to be Catholic, they don't have to be. If people want to call themselves Catholic but cherry pick what parts they follow, they can do that too.

What difference does it make to you? Are you just pissed off that people listen to churches, but no one listens to you?