Quote:There are 2 polarities in life that are obvious which are Love and Fear based polarities. It exists in all life even in that which one would say isn't alive like a rock.
These chemical reactions we have assist us in life to feel these polarities.

Nope. Fear keeps us from doing stupid and dangerous things, it's to help keep us safe. It's chemical based, the brain releases it the moment it thinks it's in danger. Did you ever go to school by any chance?

Quote:Close your eyes and hug someone you love and you will feel this energy.

No, that feeling is chemicals reacting in the brain. Though feel free to believe in whatever you wish. Whatever floats your boat.

Quote:Feel that person you love from a distance because it is an energy

Nope. Still chemical. Thinking of a loved one first comes from memory which involves stimulating certain parts of the brain which then leads to releasing chemicals that in turns leads to feelings. That's actually how the brain functions.

Quote:Of these chemical reactions, do you doubt ever feeling it without a thought?

Not really. There is no better explanation that I know of.
Though you can tell us more about this "energy" that you speak of? You know, what is it, and can it be verified?

Quote:Seems like Love is nothing more than an illusion somehow being mimicked by chemicals and atoms with no meaning which makes no sense.

No, chemicals don't mimic feelings, they cause them. Without chemicals, you'd feel fuck all.

Quote:Are we an illusion?

Many things are illusions. Beauty is only a concept, so is god. We humans like to think we're special or something. We are no more special than that plant you have in your living room. Or that fly you just swatted. We are all biological, specks with no importance what so ever.

Quote:Im not really here to debate (im sorry if it seems that way) but just want to seek/share the truth.

I'm looking for objective truth. You're truth is based on nothing but baseless assumptions. For which are of no value.

Why can't people just accept what they're made of?
What's so horrible about being made up of chemicals and atoms?

If we didn't function on chemical reactions, then taking heaps of cocaine or heroine would have no mental effect on you.

Hehe, fair enough and i agree fear is a good thing that keeps us safe.

Yes it can be difficult with baseless assumptions so ill try to lay some solid ground then.
So with love and fear base motivation (chemically of course) lets begin.

Hmm. Lets use this question:
What would you need to "experience" something?

For one to experience something one would have to be in the presence of something that is not.
To experience Cold you have not to be in the presence of Hot.
To experience Joy you have to be in the absence of Sad.

The way this works is with the Law of 2 or the Law of Trinity (3) which im still studying.
This law is for this realm or dimension where one thing cannot exist without the other.

Ill repeat "where one thing cannot exist without the other".

Simple like Hot/Cold, Up/Down, Water/Fire, Man/Woman, Here/There etc etc.
Is this a baseless assumption? Can you see this law all around you? Isn't it obvious enough or am i still rambling nonsense?

If you agree that it is real then can you begin to see it's purpose?
It is what makes experiencing possible.

New question (sorry, back to assumptions):
Why would something need to be experienced?

Hmm. Lets say you have a song conceptually and somewhat hear it in your mind. You get the tools and you bring it forth into reality.
You just manifested it into your experience from your concept.

Same goes for Love. In conceptual form or in the absolute realm your child could ask "What is Love"?
How will you have your child experience love then if he/she only knows it conceptually?

Does this make sense to you?

(June 17, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Lord Illicious Wrote:

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Hehe, fair enough and i agree fear is a good thing that keeps us safe.

Yes it can be difficult with baseless assumptions so ill try to lay some solid ground then.
So with love and fear base motivation (chemically of course) lets begin.

Hmm. Lets use this question:
What would you need to "experience" something?

For one to experience something one would have to be in the presence of something that is not.
To experience Cold you have not to be in the presence of Hot.
To experience Joy you have to be in the absence of Sad.

The way this works is with the Law of 2 or the Law of Trinity (3) which im still studying.
This law is for this realm or dimension where one thing cannot exist without the other.

Ill repeat "where one thing cannot exist without the other".

Simple like Hot/Cold, Up/Down, Water/Fire, Man/Woman, Here/There etc etc.
Is this a baseless assumption? Can you see this law all around you? Isn't it obvious enough or am i still rambling nonsense?

If you agree that it is real then can you begin to see it's purpose?
It is what makes experiencing possible.

New question (sorry, back to assumptions):
Why would something need to be experienced?

Hmm. Lets say you have a song conceptually and and somewhat hear it in your mind. You get the tools and you bring it forth into reality.
You just manifested it into your experience from your concept.

Same goes for Love. In conceptual form or in the absolute realm your child could ask "What is Love"?
How will you have your child experience love then if he/she only knows it conceptually?

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Does this make sense to you?

Not at all. So does that mean when I feel pain, I'm really feeling the absence of normality? Not everything is as dichotomous as you make it sound.

(June 17, 2011 at 2:25 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: Does this make sense to you?

Not at all. So does that mean when I feel pain, I'm really feeling the absence of normality? Not everything is as dichotomous as you make it sound.
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Im sorry but all is relative here. No matter how you look at it it is all relative. Everything in this universe and realm.

It's purpose is to make experience possible. You feeling pain is relative to not feeling pain.

It's the Divine Dichotomy but yet can be a contradiction.

Imagine 2 things can exist, be totally different but never better than one another. Amazing.

The choice is always yours.

(June 17, 2011 at 2:34 pm)Lord Illicious Wrote: Im sorry but all is relative here. No matter how you look at it it is all relative. Everything in this universe and realm.

It's purpose is to make experience possible. You feeling pain is relative to not feeling pain.

It's the Divine Dichotomy but yet can be a contradiction.

Imagine 2 things can exist, be totally different but never better than one another. Amazing.

The choice is always yours.

I'm still not sure what you are trying to say as you don't seem to be expressing your point very clearly. Assuming everything is dichotomous, what does that have to do with anything?

Quote:Hehe, fair enough and i agree fear is a good thing that keeps us safe.

If there were no chemical reactions firing in our brains, we'd have no problem stroking a crocodiles tongue.
Yes, fear keeps us safe.

Quote:What would you need to "experience" something?

Senses, a mind to receive signals sent by senses all over the body. Something like that.

Quote:To experience Cold you have not to be in the presence of Hot.

No, to experience cold you must be in an environment for which is cold and that your body senses then detect for which then sends signals to the brain for which the brain translates it. The brain then reacts by releasing chemicals to different areas of the brain which sends signals to parts of the body to react to the cold in order to maintain body temperature.

Quote:To experience Joy you have to be in the absence of Sad.

No to experience joy like a hot female school teacher being fingered by another hot female teacher is where her hormones are very active and certain touching of sensitive sexual organs will send signals to the brains pleasure centre that releases chemicals that cause.....joy!

Quote:Simple like Hot/Cold,

Cold is simply something that lacks heat, or thermal energy if you will.

Quote: Up/Down,

There is no up or down in space.

Quote:Water/Fire

Water is a mix of gasses, hydrogen and oxygen and fire is of heat fuel and oxygen. Or electrical chemical as I've heard.

Quote:Man/Woman

What? You do both? I didn't know you were bi-sexual.

Quote:Is this a baseless assumption? Can you see this law all around you?

Not really. Doesn't actually help your case against natural chemical reactions that fire off in the brain. The last few responses is just me playing around. Kinda waiting for you to, disprove the whole chemical thing. Also, I'm still waiting to hear of this "energy" you spoke of.

Quote:If you agree that it is real then can you begin to see it's purpose?

There is no purpose. You are a pattern seeking primate, seeing patterns is what you do by nature.
Just because there is energy and absence of energy doesn't mean there is a pattern to it.

Quote:Why would something need to be experienced?

There is no why. Stop looking at everything as if it needs a purpose.

Quote:Same goes for Love. In conceptual form or in the absolute realm your child could ask "What is Love"?
How will you have your child experience love then if he/she only knows it conceptually?

They will experience love like everyone else does, through chemical reactions in the brain. What encourages the chemical emotion of love comes from a pleasant atmosphere. From interaction to doing things you enjoy.

Quote:Does this make sense to you?

Only if it made sense. For which it didn't.

How are ya?

I was pretty sure emotion's such as love came from subatomic particle's that project out from the sun and constantly bombard the earth....

(June 17, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Lord Illicious Wrote: Hehe, fair enough and i agree fear is a good thing that keeps us safe.

Yes it can be difficult with baseless assumptions so ill try to lay some solid ground then.
So with love and fear base motivation (chemically of course) lets begin.

Hmm. Lets use this question:
What would you need to "experience" something?

For one to experience something one would have to be in the presence of something that is not.
To experience Cold you have not to be in the presence of Hot.
To experience Joy you have to be in the absence of Sad.

The way this works is with the Law of 2 or the Law of Trinity (3) which im still studying.
This law is for this realm or dimension where one thing cannot exist without the other.

Ill repeat "where one thing cannot exist without the other".

Simple like Hot/Cold, Up/Down, Water/Fire, Man/Woman, Here/There etc etc.
Is this a baseless assumption? Can you see this law all around you? Isn't it obvious enough or am i still rambling nonsense?

If you agree that it is real then can you begin to see it's purpose?
It is what makes experiencing possible.

New question (sorry, back to assumptions):
Why would something need to be experienced?

Hmm. Lets say you have a song conceptually and somewhat hear it in your mind. You get the tools and you bring it forth into reality.
You just manifested it into your experience from your concept.

Same goes for Love. In conceptual form or in the absolute realm your child could ask "What is Love"?
How will you have your child experience love then if he/she only knows it conceptually?

Does this make sense to you?

No, it doesn't.

If it makes sense to you, then stop abusing drugs and get an education in the physical and biological sciences, and it will stop.

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Quote:What would you need to "experience" something?

Senses, a mind to receive signals sent by senses all over the body. Something like that.

You also need relative law for experience to be possible or else one would know something conceptually.
The body is part of what you need to experience the sense of the relative.

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Quote:To experience Cold you have not to be in the presence of Hot.

No, to experience cold you must be in an environment for which is cold and that your body senses then detect for which then sends signals to the brain for which the brain translates it. The brain then reacts by releasing chemicals to different areas of the brain which sends signals to parts of the body to react to the cold in order to maintain body temperature.

Which being in an cold environment for one to sense would be related to being in an environment which isn't cold for one to sense.
The body/brain/mind in whichever way it does detects, feels or senses has 2 currently known ways of knowing the cold.
1 is knowing the cold conceptually and 2 experiencing it. You need the relative to experience it.

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Quote:To experience Joy you have to be in the absence of Sad.

No to experience joy like a hot female school teacher being fingered by another hot female teacher is where her hormones are very active and certain touching of sensitive sexual organs will send signals to the brains pleasure centre that releases chemicals that cause.....joy!

I guess. You still need this law of the physical world to experience them concepts of Love based Joy.

Quote:

Quote:Simple like Hot/Cold,

Cold is simply something that lacks heat, or thermal energy if you will.

OK. The cold is relative to heat if you will.

Quote:

Quote: Up/Down,

There is no up or down in space.

Ahh. True but there is a here and there that is experienced as a up and down.

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Quote:Water/Fire

Water is a mix of gasses, hydrogen and oxygen and fire is of heat fuel and oxygen. Or electrical chemical as I've heard.

Quote:Man/Woman

What? You do both? I didn't know you were bi-sexual.

All examples of the relative realm we are in.

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Quote:Is this a baseless assumption? Can you see this law all around you?

Not really. Doesn't actually help your case against natural chemical reactions that fire off in the brain. The last few responses is just me playing around. Kinda waiting for you to, disprove the whole chemical thing. Also, I'm still waiting to hear of this "energy" you spoke of.

Wait hold on. I am not trying to disprove chemical reactions. I am simply trying to show how they are additional tools to assist you like the many other tools.
For there is sight to behold a life may begin leaning towards it's senses to sense something more. Like a tiny creature after many years of evolution may have developed eye sensory perception. Or like a Giraffe that have for many generations stretched out their heads to reach the leaves of trees.
For the energy thing:
Well i am trying to show you how this whole universe exists in different perspective.
A way where it is very easy and obvious to notice.
I do believe this law of the relative is fairly easy to notice and cannot be denied.
It is what makes experience possible. Once you accept it, you can step farther in seeking why it exists.
I can't see how one could deny this law exists as everything is an example of it.

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Quote:If you agree that it is real then can you begin to see it's purpose?

There is no purpose. You are a pattern seeking primate, seeing patterns is what you do by nature.
Just because there is energy and absence of energy doesn't mean there is a pattern to it.
There are patterns and no patterns which is one huge great pattern.

The evidence is there in plain view in everything and everywhere.
This is the realm of the relative where one thing cannot exist without another.
It is more than fairly evident, it is ridiculously evident.

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Quote:Why would something need to be experienced?

There is no why. Stop looking at everything as if it needs a purpose.

Funny. Ive seen Atheists question other religious people where the religious people would never dare question something.
This feels the same way as an Atheist doesn't wish to question something that is more than obvious and will stand on their belief of disbelief even with clear evidence.

The rules are there, the evidence is clear, the relative law is functioning as it is but one cannot question why and for what is it there for.

It is there and you say don't look for the purpose but yet it is giving it's purpose clearly.
Again: This law is what makes experience possible or else one would know things conceptually.

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Quote:Same goes for Love. In conceptual form or in the absolute realm your child could ask "What is Love"?
How will you have your child experience love then if he/she only knows it conceptually?

They will experience love like everyone else does, through chemical reactions in the brain. What encourages the chemical emotion of love comes from a pleasant atmosphere. From interaction to doing things you enjoy.

Correct, and to experience Love and Joy you must know what you choose Love and Joy is by not choosing what makes your Sad.

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Quote:Does this make sense to you?

Only if it made sense. For which it didn't.

Im sorry that it doesn't make sense for you. Maybe with some time it will.

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(June 17, 2011 at 3:10 pm)Chuck Wrote: No, it doesn't.

If it makes sense to you, then stop abusing drugs and get an education in the physical and biological sciences, and it will stop.

I don't do drugs and have studied much of many sciences.
Ive also done years of extensive research from every aspect from people like:
Neale Donald Walsch, James Redfield, Deepak Chopra, Steven Hawkings, Newton, etc etc countless etcs.
Philosophies, Music, Art, Religions (religions are mostly deranged), Mathematicians, Scientists, Biologists, Florist, Bakers and candle stick makers.

Input from everywhere coupled with my own experience has led me to this discovery.

The discovery of the Relative Realm.
Amen.

(June 17, 2011 at 2:41 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: I'm still not sure what you are trying to say as you don't seem to be expressing your point very clearly. Assuming everything is dichotomous, what does that have to do with anything?

Hey that is great. You see it and you are one step closer.

That is what i am trying to get across.

What does that have to do with anything? Or why?

What is the purpose of this or why does it exists?

Lets see how it is used:

If life wanted to experience itself then how would it do it?
Ive explained how.
Through the tools your body uses to experience it instead of knowing it only conceptually.
This relative realm makes experience possible.
It gives profound detail to a concept by inserting the element what it is not.
It is unbelievable at first be magnificent in the end.

Now forget for a minute about what makes colors.
If i ask you: Which is better, red or blue?
One could say i like blue but red is nice too.

You see neither color red or blue is better than another but is different and magnificent.
That is the greatness in it as they define each other without meaning.
Where 1 thing cannot exist without another and are both relative to each other.

Now what motivates life?
It has to have some sort of attraction to something doesn't it?
Something to make it go from point A to B or if it has no purpose then why would it move to anywhere?
Be it by whatever way, it has to have something to give it a pursuit to experience itself.

This is where it gets crazy and very difficult to prove:

There is the force of life which is has a desire.
The desire to experience itself.
Experience itself and it's existence with experience.
To choose what to experience itself as.
To be guided by 2 polarities which are Love and Fear.
It will develop tools to sense things much deeper thus more experiences of itself.
It will know fear as things seem dangerous.
It will know joy as it is safe and pleasant.
Will know Love as it chooses to experience it and remember Love is what it really is.

It exist here to remember what it really is.
To experience what it really is.
What it really is, is Love experiencing what Love is conceptually.
It is a celebration in a magnificent realm.