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GMOs in Germany
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GMOs in Germany
I haven't found much about this, but I wonder, why are GMOs in Germany among some other European countries banned? As far as I know GMOs have been deemed safe and there are no issues with it, generally, but I find it odd why Germany would ban GMOs.
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RE: GMOs in Germany
(January 8, 2017 at 4:26 pm)RozKek Wrote: I haven't found much about this, but I wonder, why are GMOs in Germany among some other European countries banned? As far as I know GMOs have been deemed safe and there are no issues with it, generally, but I find it odd why Germany would ban GMOs.

Because the country is filled with damn organic-worshipping hippies who pray to Greenpeace to purify their precious bodily fluids because they think "genes", "atoms" and "chemicals" are evil.
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RE: GMOs in Germany
(January 8, 2017 at 7:12 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(January 8, 2017 at 4:26 pm)RozKek Wrote: I haven't found much about this, but I wonder, why are GMOs in Germany among some other European countries banned? As far as I know GMOs have been deemed safe and there are no issues with it, generally, but I find it odd why Germany would ban GMOs.

Because the country is filled with damn organic-worshipping hippies who pray to Greenpeace to purify their precious bodily fluids because they think "genes", "atoms" and "chemicals" are evil.

Do you disagree with that?
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RE: GMOs in Germany
(January 8, 2017 at 7:13 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 8, 2017 at 7:12 pm)Alex K Wrote: Because the country is filled with damn organic-worshipping hippies who pray to Greenpeace to purify their precious bodily fluids because they think "genes", "atoms" and "chemicals" are evil.

Do you disagree with that?

Erm, most emphatically. You see, the most vocal people here are really led by emotions - they are anti-science because they are motivated by an irrational desire to want things to be "natural" above all else, and would rather eat some dubious supplement if it is marketed as natural than some benign well-understood substance that was created artificially.
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RE: GMOs in Germany
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RE: GMOs in Germany
(January 8, 2017 at 7:21 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(January 8, 2017 at 7:13 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do you disagree with that?

Erm, most emphatically. You see, the most vocal people here are really led by emotions - they are anti-science because they are motivated by an irrational desire to want things to be "natural" above all else, and would rather eat some dubious supplement if it is marketed as natural than some benign well-understood substance that was created artificially.

The only organic stuff I buy is meats/animal products bc I feel like the animals are treated more humanely that way. I generally never really cared about anything else being organic and never minded gmo's and such.

But recently (bc of what happened to my kid) I've been a bit paranoid about anything that could potentially cause some sort of spontaneous genetic mutation in the next baby. I haven't made the leap to going "all natural", but I've been more mindful about that type of thing recently.

There are just so many things we still don't know. For example I'm sure when smoking first became popular, they had no idea it was harmful to the smoker, much less harmful to an unborn baby.
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-walsh
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RE: GMOs in Germany
(January 8, 2017 at 8:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There are just so many things we still don't know. For example I'm sure when smoking first became popular, they had no idea it was harmful to the smoker, much less harmful to an unborn baby.

But is there any reason to think that greater knowledge of human physiology will be more likely to reveal problems with GMOs than, say, fabric dyes or the stuff in your shampoo?
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RE: GMOs in Germany
Bacteria do it, evolution does it, for some reason when people do it for a stated useful goal, people lose their fucking minds. Well the alternative is breeding permits. Pick one.
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RE: GMOs in Germany
(January 8, 2017 at 8:27 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(January 8, 2017 at 8:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There are just so many things we still don't know. For example I'm sure when smoking first became popular, they had no idea it was harmful to the smoker, much less harmful to an unborn baby.

But is there any reason to think that greater knowledge of human physiology will be more likely to reveal problems with GMOs than, say, fabric dyes or the stuff in your shampoo?

I think it's reasonable to think we are the most exposed to something when we ingest it.

I'm not saying I think gmos or other artificial food substances are bad. I'm just saying it is possible that they could be and we just don't know yet.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: GMOs in Germany
If you're going to worry about things you're exposed to in your environment, GMO's should probably be close to the bottom of the list.

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