It's simply not racist to build a wall. It's just an extension of your imagination. It would be like me calling you racist because you have locks on your doors because you must be scared of minorities breaking in.

This is fictional but funny.

Quote:As reported previously, 2 students at The University of California stated that they would publicly remove their penis’ if Trump enforced the existing USA-Mexico border wall. In a continuance of this trend, 4 students at the University of Washington have promised to remove pieces of their reproductive anatomy if Trump builds the wall.

Washington Sophomore Trent Griliphaen said he was inspired by the movement at The University of California, and that he “thinks that Trump’s construction of the wall is just an extension of his penis, and an expression of Patriarchal rape culture. Really, by building the wall, we are raping the Mexican people, and I am no longer willing to be a perpetrator of rape culture. If I remove my penis, I am making a statement that I reject this mentality.”

Griliphaen was apparently the first student at UW to embrace this movement, and according to him, he has inspired three other male students to emasculate themselves, in public, when construction of the new border wall commences.

“I heard about what was happening in California, and new that this kind of movement could gain traction up here – we are a progressive state. I kind of feel guilty, I’m removing my penis, but one of the other guys is going to castrate himself, and he’s even considering taking off a couple of fingers” stated Griliphaen.

*This is an entertainment piece – all information found in this article is fictitious, and no representation of any individual, living or dead is intentional.

http://globalmedianew.net/index.php/2017...ilds-wall/

I fully expect that entertainment piece to become a "legitimate" talking point for some people.

(January 26, 2017 at 11:57 am)scoobysnack Wrote: It's simply not racist to build a wall. It's just an extension of your imagination. It would be like me calling you racist because you have locks on your doors because you must be scared of minorities breaking in.

I never said it was.  -This- particular wall, however, is.  Care to take a crack at any of my criticisms of the plan, or answer any questions regarding your support thereof? Or will this be another "How is it racist, what's racist about that, I can't be a racist" bits of theater? If you really don't know....you've been -provided- with the means to find out.

(January 26, 2017 at 12:25 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(January 26, 2017 at 11:57 am)scoobysnack Wrote: It's simply not racist to build a wall. It's just an extension of your imagination. It would be like me calling you racist because you have locks on your doors because you must be scared of minorities breaking in.

I never said it was.  -This- particular wall, however, is.  Care to take a crack at any of my criticisms of the plan, or answer any questions regarding your support thereof?

As for me, I said I didn't know. At the same time, workable alternative solutions haven't materialized. Reagan did try amnesty. That didn't seem to work.

Your Sgt Shultz all of a sudden, huh?  

You don;t know about any of that...not even an opinion, and yet you support it?  Gee, that doesn't sound like a recipe for misery at all. You don;t have to know what you should do to solve whatever problem you imagine there to be...to know what should most definitely -not- be done in regards to the same problem, again, whatever the hell that is.

(January 26, 2017 at 11:22 am)Khemikal Wrote: Racist policies are racist....I don;t make them so, that's on the trumpster and his supporters.  

OFC, I did lay out all of the reasons that this was a silly idea from the floor to the ceiling, didn't I?  Care to take a crack at any of that?

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Here are two questions that might...I say might, give you impetus for introspection.  

Why is it that you've bought a factually untrue and overtly racist immigration ideology hook line and sinker?  You will have to explain whats untrue or racist about national soverignty and borders and controlling the access to the nation.

Why is it okay to confiscate money from -legal- immigrants (I know you don;t give a fuck about illegals, so I won't bother asking)? No one is confiscating any money. They can keep their money.

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Why is it that your main concern is whether or not it will work...rather than whether or not we should do it at all? 

Do you have any reservations about the call..in that executive order, to construct concentration camps?  I don't like concentration camps and don't expect them to be constructed.

Do you have any reservations about the call, in that executive order, to threaten any city or entity aiding or abetting illegal immigrants?  Harboring fugitives is a crime.

Do you have any reservations about the call, in that executive order, to deport anyone accused of a crime....no conviction required, or anyone an immigration officer feels is a "threat" without the necessity of any charges against them existing?  Not a fan of breaking up families, but deporting aliens who commit felonies and don't add much value to our society and shouldn't be here in the first place sounds like common sense to me. You may want to look up the definition of a citizen and illegal alien.

Do you have any reservations about the call, in that executive order, to recruit a force of 10,000 immigration officers to enforce any of the above?

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Is there any specific reason, that you can think of, that caused you not to notice any of the above, or..if you did notice it, lead you to feel as though none of these issues are as pressing as the immigrant threat?

Since you asked I answered a few questions in bold above.

(January 26, 2017 at 11:55 am)A Theist Wrote:

(January 26, 2017 at 9:54 am)Tiberius Wrote: Hate to break it to you but wire cutters with rubber handles exist.

Yup. I have a few of those. But I think it'll take a bit more rubber insulation than that, like thick rubber gloves in addition to wearing rubber boots. Just to be sure. Ladders can be pretty heavy. Once atop the wall how will they get back down to the other side? Will they jump down 18 feet? It's a bigger drop than some would think. It would also take a bit of strength and coordination to pull the ladder up from one side of the wall and to slide it down set against the other side of the wall, even for two people working together.

Rope, insulated wirecutters.

Easier to make a tunnel.

(January 26, 2017 at 12:43 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:  You will have to explain whats untrue or racist about national soverignty and borders and controlling the access to the nation.

Nothing, we've managed both without any need to be racist dicks about it, but why ask?  

Quote:No one is confiscating any money. They can keep their money.

What about the plan to extort the mexican government by threatening to confiscate remittances.... to "pay" for some wall, don't you understand?  

Quote:  I don't like concentration camps and don't expect them to be constructed.

Too bad, it's in the executive order.  How else did you expect mass deportations to occur, honestly?  

Quote:Harboring fugitives is a crime.

A favorite line of oppressive states when they are not capable of or do not feel inclined to support their laws and positions.  

Quote: Not a fan of breaking up families, but deporting aliens who commit felonies and don't add much value to our society and shouldn't be here in the first place sounds like common sense to me. You may want to look up the definition of a citizen and illegal alien.

Deporting legal immigrants because they've been -charged- with a crime...and even if they haven't even been charged, is what's contained in the order.  We can already deport someone convicted of a felony.  Try again?

This last one is amusing, especially in reference to another response up above. Do you know why we imprison rather than deport? It's a profit stream for the private prison complex, the same people who;ve been tapped to build the concentration camps required for this little scheme to play out.

(January 26, 2017 at 10:41 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I don't know if a wall would work or not. Heck I don't even know what kind of wall we're talking about. What I do know is that illegal immigration makes many bad things worse like drug smuggling, human trafficking, the spread of disease, and low grade-level competency in schools. It's corrosive to the rule of law in both the US and Mexico and it is fundamentally unfair to law-abiding immigrants. For years and years and years politicians have either promised to something and didn't or exploited the situation for political gain. Trump isn't just doing something different; he's actually trying to do something. Whether it works or not remains to be seen.

No, he's not doing something. It's a $15 billion dollar metaphor. It won't do anything to solve those problems, it's just an image thing. And people who don't know jack about illegal immigration between the US-Mexico border will think that a physical wall will do something. That's all Trump cares about: image. It looks like he's trying to do something. It's flashier than legislation. Are you aware that illegal immigration from the southern border has been decreasing, without this stupid wall? Are you aware that a lot of illegals are immigrants who arrived legally but stayed after their visas expired? 

The issue is more complex than WALL. But his supporters don't care.

(January 26, 2017 at 11:55 am)A Theist Wrote: Yup. I have a few of those. But I think it'll take a bit more rubber insulation than that, like thick rubber gloves in addition to wearing rubber boots. Just to be sure. Ladders can be pretty heavy. Once atop the wall how will they get back down to the other side? Will they jump down 18 feet? It's a bigger drop than some would think. It would also take a bit of strength and coordination to pull the ladder up from one side of the wall and to slide it down set against the other side of the wall, even for two people working together.

You don't need a ladder to climb down a wall, some rope would suffice. Given that the electric fencing would have to be secured somehow, I'd imagine there would be plenty of points where they can secure a rope.