I will gladly teach a class on Jesus.

Lesson 1: Jesus is not a confirmed historical person. Nobody can identify with reasonable certainty which 'Jesus' they're supposed to be referring to.

Lesson 2: Jesus said that diseases are caused by Demons. He lied.

Lesson 3: Jesus said to call no man a fool, and then called people fools. There are several more contradictions, and there will be a test on them ON MONDAY.

. . . and he was crucified, according to John on Thursday, and on Friday according to Mark, so we can conclude Jesus was crucified twice, JUST TO BE SURE.

Teach the controversy !!!

(February 8, 2017 at 1:09 am)vorlon13 Wrote: . . . and he was crucified, according to John on Thursday, and on Friday according to Mark, so we can conclude Jesus was crucified twice, JUST TO BE SURE.

Teach the controversy !!!

The Jewish Babylonian Talmud says that the Jews killed Jesus using five different methods.

(February 7, 2017 at 6:43 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Thing that really perplexes me is that christers seem completely oblivious to the toxic effect that politicizing their faith has had...on their faith.  They've become the usual suspects fed a neverending line of political bait that has the effect of gradually transforming them into evangelists for the gospel of St. Ronnie rather than anything recognizably "christian".  This can't be waived away, as many would and do, by claiming that the conservative issues which have somehow become synonymous with christian issues are a necessarry and unavoidable consequence of christian belief..because, ofc, another....admittedly smaller, demographic of christians took it in entirely the opposite direction in the same timeframe.

You forget that ever since its inception in 325CE christianity has ever been a political movement first an foremost. And it's main goal has always been to protect the poweful and keep the weak down.

Because if they put jeebus in schools, he can reach out and touch *all* the the little kids, not just the (ever decreasing) ones that already go to a xtian church.

If you can't force the kids to go to church, you put the church where they are forced to go.

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Morons want to force their imaginary friend into schools, just like they want to force their believes on others at every other chance they get. And schools are particularly useful for indoctrination, because they're full of kids, who still believe in Santa. Religious nutballs know, that if you don't implant the magical nonsense early enough - the kids might learn to think for themselves...

Q: Why do far right Christian-Conservatives want to put Jesus in schools?

A: Simple. To educate his bronze age ass.

(February 8, 2017 at 5:49 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:

(February 7, 2017 at 6:43 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Thing that really perplexes me is that christers seem completely oblivious to the toxic effect that politicizing their faith has had...on their faith.  They've become the usual suspects fed a neverending line of political bait that has the effect of gradually transforming them into evangelists for the gospel of St. Ronnie rather than anything recognizably "christian".  This can't be waived away, as many would and do, by claiming that the conservative issues which have somehow become synonymous with christian issues are a necessarry and unavoidable consequence of christian belief..because, ofc, another....admittedly smaller, demographic of christians took it in entirely the opposite direction in the same timeframe.

You forget that ever since its inception in 325CE christianity has ever been a political movement first an foremost. And it's main goal has always been to protect the poweful and keep the weak down.

While christianity may find it's origins as such, there actually was a time..in living memory in the US, when the gp did not politicize it's religion.

This thread speaks to exactly why I think religion is dangerous.

It is an inherent trait in many, if not most, Christians to want and "spread the word." It says in their own book to go and preach the supposed word of god to others in order to show them the way. Christians, being people of at least average intelligence (most of them anyway, though some studies would suggest that religious folks actually have a lower IQ on average), realize that instead of preaching to adults who can use logic, reason, experience and observation to criticize and analyze what they are taught, they should preach to children, who will more than likely take an adult's word for it that a man named Jesus was the son of god and got sent here by himself to sacrifice himself to himself for the sake of allowing himself to forgive everyone for their sins, even the ones committed against himself.

Many Christians are smart, dangerous people and I think religion itself is dangerous. It gives people a false sense of security and hope. It allows people to be self-righteous about something that has nothing to do with them. The pious people of Christianity are not so innocent after all. They know what their agenda is and have no problem pushing it on everyone else, completely oblivious to the fact that their beliefs are slowly but surely fading away. Let them fight... they'll die kicking and screaming and we can all enjoy the show in the mean time.

(February 8, 2017 at 8:36 am)Khemikal Wrote:

(February 8, 2017 at 5:49 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: You forget that ever since its inception in 325CE christianity has ever been a political movement first an foremost. And it's main goal has always been to protect the poweful and keep the weak down.

While christianity may find it's origins as such, there actually was a time..in living memory in the US, when the gp did not politicize it's religion.

That wasn't from lack of trying amongst the religionistas, but the Republicans (a much better group than the current crowd who bear their mantle) were strong enough to not entertain them.