Bernie talks about how worker co-ops are a good model for the working class. Science damn do I wish this guy won.

https://youtu.be/9GyOWRW1Mzo

You're not the only one. I don't care that he's not young and spry. We need people like Bernie, if things are going to get better. Not Hillary, and certainly not Trump.

But people who said "not Hillary" are the reason we have the WLB.

Ironic, huh?

(April 11, 2017 at 6:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But people who said "not Hillary" and the reason we have the WLB.

Ironic, huh?

No, it's not ironic. The people deserve better than Hillary, and the Dems are going to continue losing until they bring us an actually good candidate. Or get kicked out by groups like Justice Democrats.

Quote:The people deserve better than Hillary

Do they?  Because now they have the fucking WLB.

I fully agree with the observation that:

Quote: “Every country has the government it deserves.”

― Joseph de Maistre

Well we need Bernie, whether anyone thinks they deserve Trump or Hillary, or not.

(April 11, 2017 at 6:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But people who said "not Hillary" are the reason we have the WLB.

Ironic, huh?

Bernie supporters overwhelmingly voted for Clinton. She won the popular vote. She lost because, among other things, she didn't campaign very well in the rust belt, some of which formed part of her "firewall", which collapsed. She was also one of the most unlikable candidates in US history.

Like it or not min, those are the facts, and instead of trying to blame people who are trying to work for a better future, maybe you should join them instead.

Got no issue with this, it makes sense for workers. Co-op, shares in the company, representation of the BOD, ...........

Bernie desperately needs to form his equivalent of the goddamn Clinton Foundation and get out and start solving some fucking problems. Get his ass down to Venezuela and have him show those stupid sterbs, cretins, and maroons how they're doing it wrong.

(April 11, 2017 at 8:54 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(April 11, 2017 at 6:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But people who said "not Hillary" are the reason we have the WLB.

Ironic, huh?

Bernie supporters overwhelmingly voted for Clinton. She won the popular vote. She lost because, among other things, she didn't campaign very well in the rust belt, some of which formed part of her "firewall", which collapsed. She was also one of the most unlikable candidates in US history.

Like it or not min, those are the facts, and instead of trying to blame people who are trying to work for a better future, maybe you should join them instead.

Facts?  So I suppose these aren't?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/prog...5a227cb859

Quote:In the last election many self-identified progressives either stayed home or voted for a third party candidate. In doing so they helped elect Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton lost three states that made the difference in the Electoral College by a total of less than one hundred thousand votes despite winning the popular vote by nearly three million.

In two of those states, Michigan and Wisconsin, the number of votes Stein and the Green Party received were more than Hillary lost those states by. In Pennsylvania Hillary lost by only a few more votes than Stein got. So if you stayed home or voted for Stein, a candidate everyone understood had ZERO chance to win, you helped elect Trump. Nut cases like Susan Sarandon, who notoriously said “Clinton is more dangerous than Trump” must accept their share of responsibility for what is happening now in America to African Americans, Muslims, immigrants, women, children and the LGBT community.

The problem with progressives was that they believed the polls and figured they could tend to their wounded little egos and sit on their asses because Hillary was going to win anyway.  Well, they got what they deserve.