(April 14, 2017 at 10:45 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(April 14, 2017 at 10:09 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: And by extension, every single fuckhead who voted for him.

Every. Single. Fuckhead.

In all honestly the democratic party chose to lose they could have pushed anyone else and won
but they chose Clinton and people don't really like the Clinton's that much. Granted she won the popular
vote and it does show that we do need electoral reform and need to get rid of the electoral college and base
our votes on popular vote instead of the stock 2 party system.

The Republican gerrymandering made T.rump president, not the will of the people.

I didn't think we'd be witting on the verge of WW3 in my life, but it looks like it may happen. Either with Russia over Syria, or China over North Korea.

(April 15, 2017 at 2:22 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(April 14, 2017 at 10:45 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

In all honestly the democratic party chose to lose they could have pushed anyone else and won
but they chose Clinton and people don't really like the Clinton's that much. Granted she won the popular
vote and it does show that we do need electoral reform and need to get rid of the electoral college and base
our votes on popular vote instead of the stock 2 party system.

Well, popular vote might sound good, but when a majority of the population looks at facebook as a trustworthy news outlet, a popular vote only system is just another brexit waiting to happen

(April 15, 2017 at 2:22 pm)dyresand Wrote: In all honestly the democratic party chose to lose they could have pushed anyone else and won
but they chose Clinton and people don't really like the Clinton's that much. Granted she won the popular
vote and it does show that we do need electoral reform and need to get rid of the electoral college and base
our votes on popular vote instead of the stock 2 party system.

I sure agree with eliminating the Electoral College. I don't think that relieves anyone who voted for The Shitgibbon of responsibility for his or her choice, or what unfolds as a result of it.

Can someone explain to me why Trumpians look at Xi telling Ung to simmer down, and all the bombs being dropped all over, as a good thing? Like, they don't know history???
Foreign relations wise, where does this put us, and where are we headed at this rate???

*hands mic to smart people

Also, "hai"

(April 15, 2017 at 2:49 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Republican gerrymandering made T.rump president, not the will of the people.

Don't confuse gerrymandering with voter suppression.  They are different but both are vital parts of the republicunt plan.

(April 16, 2017 at 11:44 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(April 15, 2017 at 2:49 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Republican gerrymandering made T.rump president, not the will of the people.

Don't confuse gerrymandering with voter suppression.  They are different but both are vital parts of the republicunt plan.

Gerrymandering can render vote useless, so there's not much difference.

(April 15, 2017 at 2:22 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(April 14, 2017 at 10:45 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

In all honestly the democratic party chose to lose they could have pushed anyone else and won

Every time somebody comes up with this idiocy, I'll keep pushing the fact that the Republitraitors removed by illegal means 10,000,000 voters from the lists. Clinton won the vote by 3.5million votes, how many more would she have won if everybody could vote (like they do in a democracy). And then you've got the gerrymandering and the votes not counted in the rustbelt and Florida. An independent and thorough count of the vote (even without the citizens deprived of their rights) would have seen Clinton with 400+ Electoral College votes.

You want to change the system? Agitate for the removal of all political party oversight of US elections, local, state and national. Don't piss and moan at the party most willing to play fair.

(April 15, 2017 at 3:00 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote:

(April 15, 2017 at 2:22 pm)dyresand Wrote: In all honestly the democratic party chose to lose they could have pushed anyone else and won
but they chose Clinton and people don't really like the Clinton's that much. Granted she won the popular
vote and it does show that we do need electoral reform and need to get rid of the electoral college and base
our votes on popular vote instead of the stock 2 party system.

Well, popular vote might sound good, but when a majority of the population looks at facebook as a trustworthy news outlet, a popular vote only system is just another brexit waiting to happen

Do you honestly blame people for liking news on Facebook more than corporate media on TV honestly.
Trust in the media is at an all time low it's also funny when you look at actual reporters and actual news being told over youtube
lately youtube and the corporate media has been cracking down on them and demonetizing their videos. If i were to make a video
on Syria or  anything having to do with the middle east id lose my partnership along with ad revenue. Granted facebook as of a day before yesterday
said how to spot fake news it can be taken as either good or bad thing. But any case we do need electoral reform there is going to be fake news
regardless i mean my favorite fake news site is the onion.

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(April 16, 2017 at 12:46 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:

(April 15, 2017 at 2:22 pm)dyresand Wrote: In all honestly the democratic party chose to lose they could have pushed anyone else and won

Every time somebody comes up with this idiocy, I'll keep pushing the fact that the Republitraitors removed by illegal means 10,000,000 voters from the lists. Clinton won the vote by 3.5million votes, how many more would she have won if everybody could vote (like they do in a democracy). And then you've got the gerrymandering and the votes not counted in the rustbelt and Florida. An independent and thorough count of the vote (even without the citizens deprived of their rights) would have seen Clinton with 400+ Electoral College votes.

You want to change the system? Agitate for the removal of all political party oversight of US elections, local, state and national. Don't piss and moan at the party most willing to play fair.

We do need serious electoral reform that's all i'm really trying to say. in this current system
you don't really have vote at all because only electoral votes really matter. All i am saying is 
we should have a system to where one vote really means one vote and that vote holds weight. 
if people had the choice of oh i want to vote for this asshole ill vote for this asshole instead of hey
here is a ballot with 4 choices instead you have multiple choices rather than, do you want to vote for
republican, democrat, green, libertarian, because those were the choices i seen when i voted. All im saying is
have the option instead of throwing 2 major parties in peoples faces and let them have a real choice for once 
is what im saying.