(April 18, 2017 at 8:24 am)Harris Wrote:

(April 16, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Isis Wrote: Oh my, you've called us LGBT people "low life forms" and just provided a Dr. William Pierce video as evidence for this supposed slavery of white women by Jews. You aren't just an anti-Semite - you're totally bonkers as well. Please seek professional help, for your own sake.

I do not feel reluctant in repeating that LGBT PEOPLE ARE WORSE THAN LOW LIFE FORM.

As for the facts exposed by Dr. William Luther Pierce, why do not you challenge them and prove them to be false.

It's your personal choice to be a dirty little Nazi. That needs no refutation, more like a reeducation camp.

(April 18, 2017 at 8:30 am)Harris Wrote:

(April 16, 2017 at 3:30 pm)bennyboy Wrote: There are all kinds of crudities writ large on bathroom stalls all over the world, but I don't take time to comment on them, either. This isn't because I endorse them, but because they are not really attempting to argue against my views or to impose upon my freedoms.

But that is exactly what you are doing by giving support to every single mockery on Bible and Quran. You are a Talmud apologist who is defending it under the pretext that Jews are not pushing Judaism down to your throat and under this same excuse you are avoiding all sickening facts about Talmud. I have not seen a single comment against disgusting quotes of Talmud. On the contrary, for exposing those horrific facts you are BLAMING me for being an anti-Semite.

You are annoying, because you DON'T FUCKING LISTEN.

Nobody is here trying to PROMOTE the Talmud. If they came and quoted scripture saying we should beat our wives or something, we'd drum them out of town so fast you'd see nothing but a spinning dreidel left behind. But there ARE NO JEWS HERE? Get it? There's nothing to argue against but the wind. But, just to go on record, I'm perfectly saying "Fuck the Talmud, and fuck whoever wrote it, and fuck whoever follows its dictates." There, is that too apologetic for you?

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(April 16, 2017 at 3:30 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Really? You do not speak with the tone of an adoring human being, but rather of one full of hatred and bitterness. If Islam is the religion of adoration, then you are not Muslim at all. I have, in fact, met people of all the Abrahamic religions who are loving and respectful, and those who are corrupt and unkind. Clearly, it is not the religion which determines one's character, but his individual attributes. The reason for this is obvious-- religion doesn't matter, but rather the genetic and learned traits of a person.

Neither me nor any rational person can be adoring to:

a. Arrogant Crooks, Deceivers, Lairs, Scammers, Fraudsters, Tricksters, Perverts, Spies
b. Thieves, Robbers, Smugglers,
c. Slave Traders, Traders of illegal human organs, Illegal weapon Dealers, Drug Dealers
d. Rapists, Sex Traffickers, Adulterer, Homosexuals, Paedophiles, incest committers
e. Hooligans, Mobs, Murderers, target killers
f. And those corporatists and politicians who support, control, and run all above groups

You forgot dirty closet Jews like me. And this is obviously what you do. . . you are so full of ignorance and hate that to absolve yourself of the responsibility of acting lovingly and respectfully to all, you simply place everyone who isn't either Harris or an obvious muslim into one of the "don't need adoration" groups and carry on with your Godless ignorance.

Don't ISIS do the same? Don't the Jews, or any of the groups you hate, claim to love but only to love those whom they feel deserve it? Why not love all, and let God sort out the sinners on Judgment Day?

I'll tell you why you don't do that-- because you believe God is too weak to uphold his own justice and judgment. You think He needs you to serve as his eyes, ears and mouth, and to determine who's right or wrong-- who needs to be castigated, who needs to be the object of our hatred.

Your arrogance and ungodliness are mind-numbing. Do you really think God needs you to argue with us? That He needs you to defend his scriptures, or to promote His best translations?

No. Obviously, no faithful believer would consider God so weak and powerless. Either you don't believe Allah is real, or you are so full of arrogance that you think God needs you. But let me propose this-- the only thing God needs people like you to do is to shut the fuck up and stop driving people away from Islam with your obvious ignorance, racism, and hatred. No non-muslim will ever listen to you, which means everyone you ever talk to, if Allah is real, is doomed to turn from Him forever.

Is your arrogance really worth the judgment you will one day receive-- that due to your actions in the world, souls of people were turned AWAY from Allah? Good luck with that-- it's clear to all but you that you also must be among the "don't need adoration" group due to your insistence on hating many of God's creations with prejudice and without fair consideration-- but your lack of adoration will come from Allah Himself. Your reward, if your Allah is real, will not be 72 virgins, but rather 72 pits of fire, as the reward for the hatred and bile you constantly pour into the world.

tl/dr version:

You're a dumb hypocrite, and there is no God, by any definition, which holds any love for hypocrites.

(April 18, 2017 at 7:13 pm)bennyboy Wrote:

(April 18, 2017 at 8:30 am)Harris Wrote: But that is exactly what you are doing by giving support to every single mockery on Bible and Quran. You are a Talmud apologist who is defending it under the pretext that Jews are not pushing Judaism down to your throat and under this same excuse you are avoiding all sickening facts about Talmud. I have not seen a single comment against disgusting quotes of Talmud. On the contrary, for exposing those horrific facts you are BLAMING me for being an anti-Semite.

You are annoying, because you DON'T FUCKING LISTEN.

Nobody is here trying to PROMOTE the Talmud.  If they came and quoted scripture saying we should beat our wives or something, we'd drum them out of town so fast you'd see nothing but a spinning dreidel left behind.  But there ARE NO JEWS HERE?  Get it?  There's nothing to argue against but the wind.  But, just to go on record, I'm perfectly saying "Fuck the Talmud, and fuck whoever wrote it, and fuck whoever follows its dictates."  There, is that too apologetic for you?

Quote:Neither me nor any rational person can be adoring to:

a. Arrogant Crooks, Deceivers, Lairs, Scammers, Fraudsters, Tricksters, Perverts, Spies
b. Thieves, Robbers, Smugglers,
c. Slave Traders, Traders of illegal human organs, Illegal weapon Dealers, Drug Dealers
d. Rapists, Sex Traffickers, Adulterer, Homosexuals, Paedophiles, incest committers
e. Hooligans, Mobs, Murderers, target killers
f. And those corporatists and politicians who support, control, and run all above groups

You forgot dirty closet Jews like me.  And this is obviously what you do. . . you are so full of ignorance and hate that to absolve yourself of the responsibility of acting lovingly and respectfully to all, you simply place everyone who isn't either Harris or an obvious muslim into one of the "don't need adoration" groups and carry on with your Godless ignorance.

Don't ISIS do the same?  Don't the Jews, or any of the groups you hate, claim to love but only to love those whom they feel deserve it?  Why not love all, and let God sort out the sinners on Judgment Day?

I'll tell you why you don't do that-- because you believe God is too weak to uphold his own justice and judgment.  You think He needs you to serve as his eyes, ears and mouth, and to determine who's right or wrong-- who needs to be castigated, who needs to be the object of our hatred.

Your arrogance and ungodliness are mind-numbing.  Do you really think God needs you to argue with us?  That He needs you to defend his scriptures, or to promote His best translations?

No.  Obviously, no faithful believer would consider God so weak and powerless.  Either you don't believe Allah is real, or you are so full of arrogance that you think God needs you.  But let me propose this-- the only thing God needs people like you to do is to shut the fuck up and stop driving people away from Islam with your obvious ignorance, racism, and hatred.  No non-muslim will ever listen to you, which means everyone you ever talk to, if Allah is real, is doomed to turn from Him forever.

Is your arrogance really worth the judgment you will one day receive-- that due to your actions in the world, souls of people were turned AWAY from Allah?  Good luck with that-- it's clear to all but you that you also must be among the "don't need adoration" group due to your insistence on hating many of God's creations with prejudice and without fair consideration-- but your lack of adoration will come from Allah Himself.  Your reward, if your Allah is real, will not be 72 virgins, but rather 72 pits of fire, as the reward for the hatred and bile you constantly pour into the world.

tl/dr version:

You're a dumb hypocrite, and there is no God, by any definition, which holds any love for hypocrites.

What you call “Ignorance, disrespect and Hate” are the facts about Talmud and Jews behind the mask of atheism. These facts you can neither deny nor refute.
 
Mantra of “Fucktard” would not produce any intelligible argument for you.

(April 20, 2017 at 2:03 am)Harris Wrote: What you call “Ignorance, disrespect and Hate” are the facts about Talmud and Jews behind the mask of atheism. These facts you can neither deny nor refute.

Your ignorance is quite literal-- you are ignoring direct comments. I've said that I'm perfectly fine saying fuck the Talmud, fuck its doctrines, and fuck anyone who follows them. You've repeatedly ignored my comments that the reason we don't criticize the Jews much is that there aren't any of them here making arguments that need to be refuted.

Why do you find it hard to understand that we think your religion-- AND that of the Jews-- is a ridiculous fairy tale? We are atheist because your idea of God is without evidence or reason, and is based in the superstitious ramblings and prejudices of ancient desert dwellers. We feel that science, or even just plain common sense, can do better than your religious doctrines can.

Let's clarify this. Christianity is a stupid fairy tale. Islam is a stupid fairy tale. And. . . since you insist, Judaism is a stupid fairy tale.

See the pattern here? It's not an organized subversion of culture in favor of Jewish puppet masters. It's a belief that religions-- pretty much ALL of them-- are stupid fairy tales.

And you, believing in one of them and wasting your life's energy supporting it, are stupid.

(April 18, 2017 at 8:24 am)Harris Wrote:

(April 16, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Isis Wrote: Oh my, you've called us LGBT people "low life forms" and just provided a Dr. William Pierce video as evidence for this supposed slavery of white women by Jews. You aren't just an anti-Semite - you're totally bonkers as well. Please seek professional help, for your own sake.

I do not feel reluctant in repeating that LGBT PEOPLE ARE WORSE THAN LOW LIFE FORM.

As for the facts exposed by Dr. William Luther Pierce, why do not you challenge them and prove them to be false.

No, the lowest form of vermin in human form are those who deride a whole community of people.  Who spread lies, misinformation, and propaganda about them.

Who claim they know the "truth", usually with a capital "T", despite the overwhelming evidence against their claims.

And when they do it and belong to a group that claims to have the moral high ground, that makes them an even lower form of scum.

When I was young, I thought gay guys were pretty gross and strange; I might, if I'd ever met a gay man, avoided him or even shouted an insult at him. That's because I lived in a small town with a bunch of factory workers, loggers, and so on, and there was not yet an internet. However, as the internet has evolved, and I've been able to see the real people and their contributions, their vital personalities, and so on, I've come to value them all. Many are right here, and I've come to respect them-- for their uniqueness, and for their similarity to the rest of us.

It is amazing to me that people like Harris, who have access to ALL the information on the internet, could manage not to evolve their opinions in the same way I have-- in part because I'm a stubborn person and naturally very resistant to changing my ideas. How powerful is that particular brand of ignorance which, when presented with almost all the ideas and information that have occurred to mankind in many decades, can still manage to keep itself in the dark.

(April 22, 2017 at 1:42 am)Harris Wrote: Based on the nature of comments and articles of other members I have no doubt that Jews have structured atheist forum to defame religions and morality. Being the constructors they would never put Judaism in the showcase alongside Christianity and Islam to mock it.

Judaism is a steaming pile of shit. It's a collection of brutal history and weak philosophical ideas. I mock it for the mockable garbage it is. And I do so with Christianity and Islam as well. So far, I've never mentioned Judaism because there are no Jews to argue with here, but it hurts me not at all to include that religion in my magical Bag 'o Stupid with the other ones.

Quote:Secondly, you have put Science above God.

No, I do not put Science above God. I put scientific ideas above religious ideas.

Quote:Tell me:
Does science created universe or universe created science? Can there be any Donkey Science without having a live braying donkey?

Not knowing is not a good excuse for making up fairy tales. The fact is that YOU cannot explain the existence of the Universe any better than I can, except to ramble on about Allah. If Allah created the Universe, then demonstrate that He exists, and explain by what mechanism he caused it. Otherwise, it's all just farts in the breeze.

Quote:Give only one rational and intelligible reason to show that homosexuality is beneficial for the humanity.

Give only one rational and intelligible reason to show that Harris is beneficial for humanity. I can name many homosexuals who have contributed greatly to society. I cannot find that you have contributed anything except hot air and spite.

But just for fun, why don't YOU give one rational and intelligible reason to show that pedophiles who have sex with 9 year-old girls should be allowed to explain reality, and why anyone would take them seriously.