(April 23, 2017 at 3:38 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The problem with the 2nd amendment is it's not very specific.

The amendment says that Americans have a right to "keep and bear arms" and that's about it. "arms" can cover almost any weapon imaginable.

The phrase "well related militia" is also not well defined either, especially in the context of the amendment. Its used as a reason for why the right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed, but it doesn't state that all people who keep and bear arms need to belong to a well regulated militia either.

In short, it wasn't specific enough when it was written, and although I agree with the sentiment expressed in the amendment, it needs some more definition from court rulings.

The founders wrote laws REGULATING the size of muskets and musket balls. Funny how nobody on the far right gun worshiping sides ever shouts "SAWED OFF SHOTGUNS SHOULD BE LEGAL". 

It is utter nonsense that the founders intended for a free for all. No other product sold in America gets the level of immunity guns do and it is frightening. What NRA nutters are arguing would be like using rotary phone laws to regulate cell phones.

It has had court rulings, that is what the Supreme Court has done since on every subject. Unfortunately for the past 36 years the Supreme Court has sided with mostly big business, including gun companies. 

The last time the GOP cared about gun safety Reagan got shot and Brady did too. I certainly hope it doesn't take some nut hitting a high profile republican's family for society to wake up.

(May 5, 2017 at 4:24 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(May 5, 2017 at 3:44 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: So, you don't trust people, so you carry. Sounds like a crossfire coming down the pike. 

You love to make straw men don't you?

Quote:I do appreciate your forthright disregard for the people around you, however. Makes it easier to illustrate why we shouldn't trust you.

My gun is no threat to anyone other than a violent aggressor.

Anyway, I have the right to have it and you have the right to complain about it.

Bullshit, you're gun it a threat. No quibbling. You are not a saint, you are not immune to making mistakes, you are not, apparently, even very rational. And you are a source for a gun for some criminal. I know you won't giving a flying fuck if someone gets killed with a gun taken from you.

(May 5, 2017 at 4:54 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 5, 2017 at 4:24 pm)KUSA Wrote: You love to make straw men don't you?


My gun is no threat to anyone other than a violent aggressor.

Anyway, I have the right to have it and you have the right to complain about it.

Bullshit, you're gun it a threat. No quibbling. You are not a saint, you are not immune to making mistakes, you are not, apparently, even very rational. And you are a source for a gun for some criminal. I know you won't giving a flying fuck if someone gets killed with a gun taken from you.

This is what KUSA doesn't get. He thinks its all a gun grab on our part which it is not. But he keeps repeating his delusional hero "what ifs" not understanding, the people who don't brag about "what I would do" are the ones who you don't have to worry about. The ones who shout like him I do worry about. Moreso for his safety, but still.

(May 5, 2017 at 4:54 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Bullshit, you're gun it a threat. No quibbling. You are not a saint, you are not immune to making mistakes, you are not, apparently, even very rational. And you are a source for a gun for some criminal. I know you won't giving a flying fuck if someone gets killed with a gun taken from you.

LOL! You are funny! Go live in a padded room if the world scares you so much.

(May 5, 2017 at 5:10 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(May 5, 2017 at 4:54 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Bullshit, you're gun it a threat. No quibbling. You are not a saint, you are not immune to making mistakes, you are not, apparently, even very rational. And you are a source for a gun for some criminal. I know you won't giving a flying fuck if someone gets killed with a gun taken from you.

LOL! You are funny! Go live in a padded room if the world scares you so much.

Yea, you are the one screaming about how bad the world is and that is why you need one.

(May 5, 2017 at 5:10 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(May 5, 2017 at 4:54 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Bullshit, you're gun it a threat. No quibbling. You are not a saint, you are not immune to making mistakes, you are not, apparently, even very rational. And you are a source for a gun for some criminal. I know you won't giving a flying fuck if someone gets killed with a gun taken from you.

LOL! You are funny! Go live in a padded room if the world scares you so much.

I have been an owner and shooter since 1965. The one-legged Marine that educated me on gun safety and use was pleased with me. My current licenses allow me to fly armed if I want. I don't need guns to be safe. You're unsafe when you have guns because of your unwarranted arrogance.

(May 5, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yea, you are the one screaming about how bad the world is and that is why you need one.

The world is a bad place. That wasn't the point.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...eople-die/

That doesn't take in account the crimes that were prevented by the use of a gun that the criminal didn't die.

Even if it did the stats are bogus.

(May 5, 2017 at 5:46 pm)KUSA Wrote: That doesn't take in account the crimes that were prevented by the use of a gun that the criminal didn't die.

Even if it did the stats are bogus.

And it doesn't take in account the grey aliens that were scared away by a gun. 

And "I don't like them" doesn't make them bogus.