I still sneak in some water and food. And I live in Lebanon, so it is now hot.
Ramadan is the 9th month and considered special, where Muslims have to fast from dusk till sunset, they abstain from food, water, tobacco, and sex. And muslims get closer to Allah, by praying and reading more and doing charity.
And right now in Lebanon the weather is becoming hotter, and without water people get dehydrated especially during hot weather, I had a few friends and acquaintances who had been hospitalized during ramadan.
At work, my boss and coworkers are islamists, so I have to fake fast or else it will cost me my job, and I can't sneak in water or food, I try to go out during my break and go to a non-muslim mini mart to buy bottled water and some snacks to help me be more productive at work.
Productivity decreases in ramadan, time becomes significantly slower and the fastest thing I see is reckless drivers heading for iftar.
At home, my mom is less religious than my dad, and if I break my fast she is usually okay with it and sometimes she breaks her fast, but my dad nags a lot.
Thankfully Lebanon has a 35% Christian population 55% Muslim 5% druze, atheism and agnosticism are on the rise in Lebanon so we have no islamic laws enforced during ramadan, most restaurants are open throughout the day, unlike other Islamic countries where people who don't fast openly are jailed and can sometimes be deadly.
In Lebanon, the likelihood of terrorist attacks by Daesh or Al Qaeda increases.
In 2014 or 2012 Northen Lebanon, islamists threw a grenade at a restaurant or cafe during ramadan.
At iftar (when Muslims break their fast) they gorge on multiple platters in starvation quickly, which is harmful to the digestive system, and they wake up in the dusk to eat before engaging their fast, causing morning heartburn and weight gain.
Because of fasting I am having slight headaches, but I always try to stay hydrated and have a small snack to alleviate it.
This is what it's like to be an ex-muslim atheist during ramadan.

(June 1, 2017 at 6:30 am)Lebneni Murtad Wrote: I still sneak in some water and food.  And I live in Lebanon, so it is now hot.  
Ramadan is the 9th month and considered special, where Muslims have to fast from dusk till sunset, they abstain from food, water, tobacco, and sex. And muslims get closer to Allah, by praying and reading more and doing charity.    
And right now in Lebanon the weather is becoming hotter, and without water people get dehydrated especially during hot weather, I had a few friends and acquaintances who had been hospitalized during ramadan.  
At work, my boss and coworkers are islamists, so I have to fake fast or else it will cost me my job, and I can't sneak in water or food, I try to go out during my break and go to a non-muslim mini mart to buy bottled water and some snacks to help me be more productive at work.  
Productivity decreases in ramadan, time becomes significantly slower and the fastest thing I see is reckless drivers heading for iftar.
At home, my mom is less religious than my dad, and if I break my fast she is usually okay with it and sometimes she breaks her fast, but my dad nags a lot.  
Thankfully Lebanon has a 35% Christian population 55% Muslim 5% druze, atheism and agnosticism are on the rise in Lebanon so we have no islamic laws enforced during ramadan, most restaurants are open throughout the day, unlike other Islamic countries where people who don't fast openly are jailed and can sometimes be deadly.    
In Lebanon, the likelihood of terrorist attacks by Daesh or Al Qaeda increases.
In 2014 or 2012 Northen Lebanon, islamists threw a grenade at a restaurant or cafe during ramadan.
At iftar (when Muslims break their fast) they gorge on multiple platters in starvation quickly, which is harmful to the digestive system, and they wake up in the dusk to eat before engaging their fast, causing morning heartburn and weight gain.  
Because of fasting I am having slight headaches, but I always try to stay hydrated and have a small snack to alleviate it.  
This is what it's like to be an ex-muslim atheist during ramadan.

While I have a duty in the open west to protect human rights, I will not back off criticism of any religion.

It is one thing to not do something because you don't want to do it, but when you say others who don't share your views cant eat during the day, that does piss me off. 

There are decent humans worldwide, and the idea of empathy and charity is universal, and not a patent owned by or invented by one label. I find it absurd that some nations still live in the past where they insist others partake in a ritual even when they don't follow that ritual.

But don't feel alone, the west has had it's own history of religious bullshit. We still have pockets in America where blue laws exist. There was even a time when you could not buy kitchen appliances on Sunday, and even today, we have idiots proposing bans on hunting on Sunday. 

I'd only say the difference is the east has not had the same long term secular leash that the west has.

(June 1, 2017 at 6:30 am)Lebneni Murtad Wrote: I still sneak in some water and food.  And I live in Lebanon, so it is now hot.  
Ramadan is the 9th month and considered special, where Muslims have to fast from dusk till sunset, they abstain from food, water, tobacco, and sex. And 

Dusk is technically "sunset".
See this topic:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-49108.html
Fasting takes place from "Sunrise" until "Sunset".
In other words; from "Dawn" until "Dusk".
See this verse:

Quote:Sura 2, Page 29, The Quran:
( 187 )   It has been made permissible for you the night preceding fasting to go to your wives [for sexual relations]. They are clothing for you and you are clothing for them. Allah knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He accepted your repentance and forgave you. So now, have relations with them and seek that which Allah has decreed for you. And eat and drink until the white thread of dawn becomes distinct to you from the black thread [of night]. Then complete the fast until the sunset. And do not have relations with them as long as you are staying for worship in the mosques. These are the limits [set by] Allah, so do not approach them. Thus does Allah make clear His ordinances to the people that they may become righteous.

So it begins at dawn, and ends at sunset.

Quote:In 2014 or 2012 Northen Lebanon, islamists threw a grenade at a restaurant or cafe during ramadan.

At iftar (when Muslims break their fast) they gorge on multiple platters in starvation quickly, which is harmful to the digestive system, and they wake up in the dusk to eat before engaging their fast, causing morning heartburn and weight gain. 

?
America just dropped a MOAB and fired cruise missiles at Syria?
There was an explosion yesterday in Afghanistan that dropped more than 90 civilians dead?


Lebanon biggest problem is the drug cartels controlling its ghettos?
Gas in Lebanon is so expensive, I don't think it's affordable by the mainstream worker?
In other words; non-religious figureheads, seculars, jews, Israelies, Shiite Muslims, Sunni Muslims, nationalists, western operatives and more people with more agendas are sparking madness into the tiny Lebanon produced by Sykes-Picot treatment after WW1....

And you whine about a grenade thrown at a cafe? 
So is the whining you spread, any more authentic than the imaginary dusk to sunset Ramadan you go through?

What a waste of time..whining and whining.

Secularism and atheism are nothing but freedom to drink whiskey, shag women on public and fart on the nearest hand grenade toss to you; I bet ><

(June 1, 2017 at 3:21 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(June 1, 2017 at 6:30 am)Lebneni Murtad Wrote: I still sneak in some water and food.  And I live in Lebanon, so it is now hot.  
Ramadan is the 9th month and considered special, where Muslims have to fast from dusk till sunset, they abstain from food, water, tobacco, and sex. And 

Dusk is technically "sunset".
See this topic:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-49108.html
Fasting takes place from "Sunrise" until "Sunset".
In other words; from "Dawn" until "Dusk".
See this verse:

Quote:Sura 2, Page 29, The Quran:
( 187 )   It has been made permissible for you the night preceding fasting to go to your wives [for sexual relations]. They are clothing for you and you are clothing for them. Allah knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He accepted your repentance and forgave you. So now, have relations with them and seek that which Allah has decreed for you. And eat and drink until the white thread of dawn becomes distinct to you from the black thread [of night]. Then complete the fast until the sunset. And do not have relations with them as long as you are staying for worship in the mosques. These are the limits [set by] Allah, so do not approach them. Thus does Allah make clear His ordinances to the people that they may become righteous.

So it begins at dawn, and ends at sunset.

Quote:In 2014 or 2012 Northen Lebanon, islamists threw a grenade at a restaurant or cafe during ramadan.

At iftar (when Muslims break their fast) they gorge on multiple platters in starvation quickly, which is harmful to the digestive system, and they wake up in the dusk to eat before engaging their fast, causing morning heartburn and weight gain. 

?
America just dropped a MOAB and fired cruise missiles at Syria?
There was an explosion yesterday in Afghanistan that dropped more than 90 civilians dead?


Lebanon biggest problem is the drug cartels controlling its ghettos?
Gas in Lebanon is so expensive, I don't think it's affordable by the mainstream worker?


And you whine about a grenade thrown at a cafe? 
So is the whining you spread, any more authentic than the imaginary dusk to sunset Ramadan you go through?

What a waste of time..whining and whining.

Secularism and atheism are nothing but freedom to drink whiskey, shag women on public and fart on the nearest hand grenade toss to you; I bet ><

Secularism merely means "neutral" as in "neither for or against any label, but treat everyone equally under the law"

I don't see how atheism has anything to do with booze, or orgies in public, atheists are a MINORITY in America, Christians are the majority.

FYI in most locations outside your own house, or outside a bar, in most places in America drinking in public is ILLEGAL. And while there are nudist camps and even swingers clubs, not even sex in public is legal. 

I love how some people work up this childish delusional "lawlessness" of the west.

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I have a local gas station I walk to frequently to buy beer. Even if I had that beer in a paper bag, and was drinking it in public walking home, that would give a police officer probable cause to stop me, and if I was drunk, even without driving, arrest me. If I was not drunk, could still make me poor it out give me a warning, or write me a ticket for drinking in public. 

The reality is I only have the right to buy the beer, NO DRINKING AND DRIVING, or even walking drunk, take my beer home and at best drink it in my back yard or on my porch or in my house.

Welcome to the forum Murtad.

Apologies for Atlas' assholery. I'm glad you're protecting yourself, and I hope things get better in Lebanon.

rectal alimentation is probably out for obvious reasons . . . .

Fuxxake. Every goddamed year we have to get lectured about how Muslims are afraid to eat in the dark.

Enough already.

Boru

(June 1, 2017 at 3:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Secularism merely means "neutral" as in "neither for or against any label, but treat everyone equally under the law"

I don't see how atheism has anything to do with booze, or orgies in public, atheists are a MINORITY in America, Christians are the majority.

FYI in most locations outside your own house, or outside a bar, in most places in America drinking in public is ILLEGAL. And while there are nudist camps and even swingers clubs, not even sex in public is legal. 

I love how some people work up this childish delusional "lawlessness" of the west.

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I have a local gas station I walk to frequently to buy beer. Even if I had that beer in a paper bag, and was drinking it in public walking home, that would give a police officer probable cause to stop me, and if I was drunk, even without driving, arrest me. If I was not drunk, could still make me poor it out give me a warning, or write me a ticket for drinking in public. 

The reality is I only have the right to buy the beer, NO DRINKING AND DRIVING, or even walking drunk, take my beer home and at best drink it in my back yard or on my porch or in my house.

The Middle East has a dominating understanding that labels "atheists" and "westerners" as overlords who control everything and drink and sex openly.

The defeated attitude is attributed to WW1's defeat of the Ottoman empire; that resulted in the full establishing of new countries that never existed; under the known agreement of Sykes-Picot.

Since the natives of these regions surrendered their fates and their future to the winning side in WW1, the resulting culture that dominated every of the newly created states was a culture of darkness, misunderstanding, confusion and chaos.

It's the Arabian Middle ages; dark ages.

So that's that. In the Middle East; irreligious = atheist.
Christian= wine and property
Blonde westerner= God
Black = the "N" word. AKA Abd in the local tongue.
Whiskey= civilization

Ask why this region never advance.

SteelCurtain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

Quote:So is the whining you spread, any more authentic than the imaginary dusk to sunset Ramadan you go through?

Absolutely more authentic than your prophet, your god, or better yet your imaginary friend, mofo

(June 1, 2017 at 9:14 pm)Darinda Wrote:

Quote:So is the whining you spread, any more authentic than the imaginary dusk to sunset Ramadan you go through?

Absolutely more authentic than your prophet, your god, or better yet your imaginary friend, mofo

In a parallel universe; the "Phalange" people fast for so many hours; dusk and sunset have a long period between them there.

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It is also said that gravity works backwards there.
There is this Phlange who jumped; ended up returning to the same place !!