(October 9, 2017 at 3:01 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Someone really needs to go figure that out for themselves.  Maybe it's being consistently against a minority interest, or maybe it's his statue enthusiasm, or maybe it's constantly being triggered by sjws, or maybe that little bit where he's pretty sure that stats bare out the fact that blacks are a violent race.

In any event, playing the gender and race cards of identity politics became a political bomb for the dems. Hillary, for one, was a piss poor messenger to begin with. Both she and the dems gambled on playing race and gender against the Republicans, and lost. The dems lost states that hadn't voted for a Republican president in better than thirty years. Their largest and once loyal base, the white blue collar workers in the rust belt and coal states, broke ranks and put President Trump in the White House. You don't win elections by disregarding your largest base. The dems aren't faring well in State and local elections either. Republicans have the majority of Governorships, 34 to 15 dems and 1 independent. The dems are bombing out with their identity politics shit.  The left's chicken little obsession with seeing racists, bigots, nazis, kkk, homophobes, anti-women, blather, blather, blather, around every corner is not going to win them very many elections. Even Schumer and Pelosi agreed that their message needs to change.

"If you keep pointing out that I'm a racist dems will lose elections!" 


That might interest someone who was willing to negotiate on american racism in return for putting a dem in office...but I'm not one of those people or a dem...so....?

(October 9, 2017 at 4:38 pm)A Theist Wrote: In any event, playing the gender and race cards of identity politics became a political bomb for the dems. Hillary, for one, was a piss poor messenger to begin with. Both she and the dems gambled on playing race and gender against the Republicans, and lost. The dems lost states that hadn't voted for a Republican president in better than thirty years. Their largest and once loyal base, the white blue collar workers in the rust belt and coal states, broke ranks and put President Trump in the White House. You don't win elections by disregarding your largest base. The dems aren't faring well in State and local elections either. Republicans have the majority of Governorships, 34 to 15 dems and 1 independent. The dems are bombing out with their identity politics shit.  The left's chicken little obsession with seeing racists, bigots, nazis, kkk, homophobes, anti-women, blather, blather, blather, around every corner is not going to win them very many elections. Even Schumer and Pelosi agreed that their message needs to change.

No, one wins by having an incompetent electoral college ignore the popular vote for Hillary's election to appoint Trump.

(October 9, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote: "If you keep pointing out that I'm a racist dems will lose elections!" 


That might interest someone who was willing to negotiate on american racism in return for putting a dem in office...but I'm not one of those people or a dem...so....?

That's not what I said, and what was racist about what I posted? 

You're too obsessed with race. Too bad for you and the person you wanted in office. America's burnt out with identity politics. Unless, Trump was your man all along.

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(October 9, 2017 at 5:06 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(October 9, 2017 at 4:38 pm)A Theist Wrote: In any event, playing the gender and race cards of identity politics became a political bomb for the dems. Hillary, for one, was a piss poor messenger to begin with. Both she and the dems gambled on playing race and gender against the Republicans, and lost. The dems lost states that hadn't voted for a Republican president in better than thirty years. Their largest and once loyal base, the white blue collar workers in the rust belt and coal states, broke ranks and put President Trump in the White House. You don't win elections by disregarding your largest base. The dems aren't faring well in State and local elections either. Republicans have the majority of Governorships, 34 to 15 dems and 1 independent. The dems are bombing out with their identity politics shit.  The left's chicken little obsession with seeing racists, bigots, nazis, kkk, homophobes, anti-women, blather, blather, blather, around every corner is not going to win them very many elections. Even Schumer and Pelosi agreed that their message needs to change.

No, one wins by having an incompetent electoral college ignore the popular vote for Hillary's election to appoint Trump.

Too bad. That's the way it is in this country. At least with the electoral college the states with the biggest population won't be dictating policy for the rest of the country.

(October 9, 2017 at 5:09 pm)A Theist Wrote: Too bad. That's the way it is in this country. At least with the electoral college the states with the biggest population won't be dictating policy for the rest of the country.

You mean policy that actually helps the people instead of just catering to the one percent?

What always strikes me as odd is how those who do not benefit from voting Republican still vote that way as though it positively affects them in any way.

(October 9, 2017 at 5:14 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(October 9, 2017 at 5:09 pm)A Theist Wrote: Too bad. That's the way it is in this country. At least with the electoral college the states with the biggest population won't be dictating policy for the rest of the country.

You mean policy that actually helps the people instead of just catering to the one percent?

No. Policy that would only benefit either far left California or New York.

You had some one time dems who felt they weren't benefiting by voting for democrats over the last thirty years and they finally decided to vote for Republicans. The democrats obviously weren't doing them any good.

(October 9, 2017 at 5:18 pm)A Theist Wrote: No. Policy that would only benefit either far left California or New York.

I need something more than a vague statement.

Unfortunately I do think proportional representation is fairer and I wish we had it here in the UK too.

Although on this particular U.S. election I wish it hadn't been proportional because Trump sucks cock.

(October 8, 2017 at 2:03 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: And they wonder why we do not take their charges of racism and bigotry seriously anymore...

Shoelaces
Powerwasher

Please, keep it up.

So, let me see if I understand your argument-  A student perhaps overreacted to a shoelace she mistook for a noose, therefore racism doesn't exist?

For someone who prides himself on impeccable logic, I would have thought you'd know what non-sequitur is.

(October 9, 2017 at 2:38 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I do think that one way that racism can show up, is by projecting racism on to others or almost automatically thinking that someone is racist, because of their ethnicity.

I can see what you're saying in the second instance, sure. There are indeed those sorts of folks; I've had racism imputed to me because I'm white.

I don't think that that is what's happening in the vast majority of complaints of American racism. I also think that any charges of projection need support by way of evidence. Otherwise it's simply a fancy way of saying, "I know you are, but what am I?"

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(October 9, 2017 at 3:00 pm)Hammy Wrote: Also right-wingers are generally racist. If you believe in equality and liberty you will be left-wing or at least political center and if you don't believe in those things you'll be bigoted. Right-wing political views are the perfect views for the racist and bigot to identify with.

A gross oversimplification.

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(October 9, 2017 at 5:09 pm)A Theist Wrote: Too bad. That's the way it is in this country. At least with the electoral college the states with the biggest population won't be dictating policy for the rest of the country.

What do you think the size of HoR delegations from each state is based on?

That's right -- population.