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RE: Islam; The religion like I see it (II)
November 5, 2017 at 7:44 am
(November 4, 2017 at 7:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What you said was that you didn't want the pyramids or Acropolis blown up as the Taliban did to those Buddha statues. Ironically, the Acropolis was blown up thanks to the Turks storing ammunition in it. But it was still from an lucky Venetian artillery round and not a result of the Turks worshiping it.
In any case, I see no similar value to those books of ancient horseshit. Given a chance they would gladly burn the books of other sects themselves.
It is dangerous and IMO quite unfair to measure other beliefs - even Christianity - by the parameters necessary to understand Islaam.
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RE: Islam; The religion like I see it (II)
November 5, 2017 at 7:56 am
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(November 4, 2017 at 12:40 pm)SaStrike Wrote: Algebra was invented before Islam. For example the very tribe Muhamad was from were idol worshippers. This doesnt make idol worship true and im sure you can give logical and rational reasons why idol worship is not viable. Also This doesn't change the fact that the bas of Islam is extremely shaky. 1 man and his wife's promise that it did happen... war and force did play a big part in the spread of Islam but thats another can of worms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra#History
Quote:Diophantus has traditionally been known as the "father of algebra" but in more recent times there is much debate over whether al-Khwarizmi, who founded the discipline of al-jabr, deserves that title instead.[15] Those who support Diophantus point to the fact that the algebra found in Al-Jabr is slightly more elementary than the algebra found in Arithmetica and that Arithmetica is syncopated while Al-Jabr is fully rhetorical.[16] Those who support Al-Khwarizmi point to the fact that he introduced the methods of "reduction" and "balancing" (the transposition of subtracted terms to the other side of an equation, that is, the cancellation of like terms on opposite sides of the equation) which the term al-jabr originally referred to,[17] and that he gave an exhaustive explanation of solving quadratic equations,[18] supported by geometric proofs,
Knowing the amounts of credit theft that took place during the crusades, and even later on, I side with the Khawarezmy easily. Especially after knowing that the word "Al-Gebra" is an Arabic word: الجبر .
War and force decorate all human behavior. Even sex.
(November 4, 2017 at 12:51 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Of all the colors for text you go with eye-searing red
Your profile pic has the same color!
(November 4, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This is a fine example of why all ancient holy books should be placed in a big pile and pissed on.
Personally; it's a choice you can pick.
Culturally; it's a very big mistake.
(November 4, 2017 at 2:22 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (November 4, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This is a fine example of why all ancient holy books should be placed in a big pile and pissed on.
No Minn, they are still part of human history. I would simply say they should be seen as mythology not reality. I wouldn't want the Pyramids or Greek Acropolis blown up like the Taliban blew up the statues of Buddha.
I would argue that theists don't need their old bad guesses, but I also would not want to erase history, just learn from it.
I remember reading about that tragic incident.
Just like ISIS and their demolition of Iraqi and Syrian culture.
(November 4, 2017 at 2:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Nobody prays to the pyramids and threatens to kill those who don't.
If you lived with ancient Egyptians; probably you'll be killed if you refused to worship Egyptian idols.
(November 4, 2017 at 3:33 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (November 4, 2017 at 2:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Nobody prays to the pyramids and threatens to kill those who don't.
Minn, I would agree that the state of the middle east is far too much still far to dogmatic and tribal. But back then, even in polytheism, worldwide, humans of every religion, sought guidance from their respective god/s to guide them in battle in defeat of their enemies. Even in Greek and Roman mythology they had "war Gods". The Egyptians prayed to their deities to help them to defeat their rivals too.
Egyptian God of war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montu
Hindu God of war.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Skanda
Roman God of war.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mars-Roman-god
Greek God of war.
https://greekgodsandgoddesses.net/gods/ares/
And even Asia has it's vengeful mythology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrathful_deities
Exactly. People are different, but back then everybody was religious somehow. Almost everybody.
(November 4, 2017 at 4:40 pm)Hammy Wrote: @ the OP
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Walls of text; you mean?
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(November 4, 2017 at 7:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (November 4, 2017 at 3:33 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Minn, I would agree that the state of the middle east is far too much still far to dogmatic and tribal. But back then, even in polytheism, worldwide, humans of every religion, sought guidance from their respective god/s to guide them in battle in defeat of their enemies. Even in Greek and Roman mythology they had "war Gods". The Egyptians prayed to their deities to help them to defeat their rivals too.
Egyptian God of war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montu
Hindu God of war.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Skanda
Roman God of war.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mars-Roman-god
Greek God of war.
https://greekgodsandgoddesses.net/gods/ares/
And even Asia has it's vengeful mythology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrathful_deities
What you said was that you didn't want the pyramids or Acropolis blown up as the Taliban did to those Buddha statues. Ironically, the Acropolis was blown up thanks to the Turks storing ammunition in it. But it was still from an lucky Venetian artillery round and not a result of the Turks worshiping it.
In any case, I see no similar value to those books of ancient horseshit. Given a chance they would gladly burn the books of other sects themselves.
Napoleon took the Sphinx's nose to France.
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RE: Islam; The religion like I see it (II)
November 5, 2017 at 8:46 am
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Nope, muslims fucked that one up too. Or at least they liked to say that they did. I'm guessing it just sheared.
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RE: Islam; The religion like I see it (II)
November 5, 2017 at 5:00 pm
(November 5, 2017 at 8:46 am)Khemikal Wrote: Nope, muslims fucked that one up too. Or at least they liked to say that they did. I'm guessing it just sheared.
Elaborate please if this was concerning what I wrote in reply.
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RE: Islam; The religion like I see it (II)
November 6, 2017 at 5:24 am
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Enjoy
Quote:The Arab historian al-Maqrīzī, writing in the 15th century, attributes the loss of the nose to iconoclasm by Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr—a Sufi Muslim from the khanqah of Sa'id al-Su'ada—in AD 1378, upon finding the local peasants making offerings to the Sphinx in the hope of increasing their harvest. Enraged, he destroyed the nose, and was later hanged for vandalism.[49]Al-Maqrīzī describes the Sphinx as the "talisman of the Nile" on which the locals believed the flood cycle depended.[50]
There is a story that the nose was broken off by a cannonball fired by Napoleon's soldiers. Other variants indict British troops, the Mamluks, and others. Sketches of the Sphinx by the Dane Frederic Louis Norden, made in 1738 and published in 1757, show the Sphinx missing its nose.[51] This predates Napoleon's birth in 1769.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Sphinx_of_Giza
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Islam; The religion like I see it (II)
November 6, 2017 at 6:46 am
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(November 6, 2017 at 5:24 am)Khemikal Wrote: Enjoy
Quote:The Arab historian al-Maqrīzī, writing in the 15th century, attributes the loss of the nose to iconoclasm by Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr—a Sufi Muslim from the khanqah of Sa'id al-Su'ada—in AD 1378, upon finding the local peasants making offerings to the Sphinx in the hope of increasing their harvest. Enraged, he destroyed the nose, and was later hanged for vandalism.[49]Al-Maqrīzī describes the Sphinx as the "talisman of the Nile" on which the locals believed the flood cycle depended.[50]
There is a story that the nose was broken off by a cannonball fired by Napoleon's soldiers. Other variants indict British troops, the Mamluks, and others. Sketches of the Sphinx by the Dane Frederic Louis Norden, made in 1738 and published in 1757, show the Sphinx missing its nose.[51] This predates Napoleon's birth in 1769.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Sphinx_of_Giza
I was wrong.
This is new for me.
Thank you for the elaboration and correction.
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RE: Islam; The religion like I see it (II)
November 6, 2017 at 10:32 am
(November 6, 2017 at 6:46 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: (November 6, 2017 at 5:24 am)Khemikal Wrote: Enjoy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Sphinx_of_Giza
I was wrong.
This is new for me.
Thank you for the elaboration and correction.
WHAT? Bu bu bu.... You're a Muslim.......... We know you have a subscription to "Inspire"...... You aren't supposed to do that. You are supposed to rail against the west, and give the Trump voters and Fox News viewers the red meat they love.
GEEZE, cant we have our stereotypes without you destroying them?
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