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Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 10:50 am
(November 9, 2017 at 10:49 am)Mathilda Wrote: So you're happy with the statement that if something is a religious work then it is a work of fiction. Glad we've cleared that up.

Works of fiction and religious works are COMPLETELY different.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 10:51 am (This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 10:52 am by FatAndFaithless.)
How do you tell the difference, if not with evidence that one is true and not the other?
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 10:52 am
(November 9, 2017 at 10:50 am)pool the matey Wrote:
(November 9, 2017 at 10:49 am)Mathilda Wrote: So you're happy with the statement that if something is a religious work then it is a work of fiction. Glad we've cleared that up.

Works of fiction and religious works are COMPLETELY different.

How? Because the author claims that they made it up rather than pretends otherwise?
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 10:52 am (This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 10:53 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Apparently not.  Neither purport to contain any fact to which the scientific method is meaningfully applicable.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 10:55 am
I think Pool is reffering to the fact that the bible isn't offerig natural science knowlodge just moral knowledge , he is stating that you can't disprove the bible because of physics scientific facts.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 10:57 am (This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 10:57 am by FatAndFaithless.)
(November 9, 2017 at 10:55 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: I think Pool is reffering to the fact that the bible isn't offerig natural science knowlodge just moral knowledge , he is stating that you can't disprove the bible because of physics scientific facts.

If you claim something occurred in history, or claim that a certain facet of reality exists, or claim that something is true and verifiable...then you need evidence.  

If all you're saying is 'the bible has some good stories and morals but none of the claims should be considered as true in reality' then...fine, I guess?
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 10:57 am
pool the matey Wrote:
Mathilda Wrote:So you're happy with the statement that if something is a religious work then it is a work of fiction. Glad we've cleared that up.

Works of fiction and religious works are COMPLETELY different.

They're certainly SOMEWHAT different. Fiction writers create content without expectation of it being taken as literally true. Religious writers are more like propagandists, they're not trying to accurately portray events or reality in general, just promoting whatever seems to support
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:00 am (This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 11:01 am by ErGingerbreadMandude.)
(November 9, 2017 at 10:51 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: How do you tell the difference, if not with evidence that one is true and not the other?

...Bible is a religious work lol that's literally what it is..
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:02 am (This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 11:04 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
If evidence is scientific then it has met the gold standard of evidence.

The best evidence we have contradicts what the bible tells us about the world and its history.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:03 am
pool the matey Wrote:@FatAndFaithless,

Look up "Biblical archeology".
Mister Agenda Wrote:So you actually have no idea what makes something a straw man fallacy? It's misrepresenting someone's position as something easier to refute.

The worldwide accepted position is that the Bible is a religious work. When scientific evidence is asked for God Bible is misrepresented as a scientific work so that it can be subject to scientific scrutiny to make it easier to refute it.

No, when I ask for evidence, I'm asking for what I need if you want me to believe you. If you don't have that, you're wasting your time as well as mine. If you don't have an argument or evidence, there's nothing to refute.
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