(August 25, 2011 at 6:49 pm)Shell B Wrote: I am leaving this thread.

(August 25, 2011 at 6:51 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: We are a funny bunch aren't we?

If you don't include Napo.

(August 25, 2011 at 6:51 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: We are a funny bunch aren't we?

I wouldn't talk on behalf of Shell, but yeah, I am one funny guy.

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(August 25, 2011 at 6:51 pm)Shell B Wrote: If you don't include Napo.

Slut.

(August 25, 2011 at 6:51 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Slut.

Take is easy, dipshit. Your hopes are not reality.

(August 25, 2011 at 7:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: Your hopes are not reality.

Lol took you a while for that one. Was you having a crisis of conscience when typing those words?

(August 25, 2011 at 7:04 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Lol took you a while for that one. Was you having a crisis of conscience when typing those words?

No, I was working. Don't wait with bated breath for my replies. I quite frequently wander back to work and forget I was talking here. I think I did that to Rhythm last night.

(August 25, 2011 at 5:44 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Knowledge and faith don't go, never claimed anything else does or not.

Knowledge and faith are one and the same. Unlike frogs, which are not always toads: These are synonyms.

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Quote:In you accepting this as true. The data you perceive is simply data...

I run in accordance to that data. It's true based on available data at the time. There is never absolute certainty but can be very sure based on numerous sources of data or evidence if you will. As long as they don't contradict, the outcome data should be consistent.

Faith/knowledge is always in matter of degrees. Do you know Russian? It's not a yes or no... it's a 'Like a native', 'I have the basis', 'I can speak only a little', and 'lol, im not a communist!'.

There can be certainty. Certainty is easy, infact. I am quite certain that I won't fall up while I'm walking down the street. So certain am I of this, that I don't pay the slightest heed to the though of its occurrence.

Know also, that the data of what your senses provide is not always accurate... as illusionists and impersonators and tricksters and pranksters have proven for millennia

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Quote:You mean: their smallpox slaughtered them.

No, that's the Indians, though Mayans and such may have suffered from it from a later date. The Spanish did wipe many of them out. Not hard really, the Spanish had guns and cannons, they had arrows and spears. No contest.

Smallpox, among other diseases, decimated them. There were maybe 600 spaniards, from a small fleet. I don't care if they had fucking tanks: they had no supplies that they didn't carry with them, and were across a sea from reinforcement. Arrows are as deadly as cannons, what changes is the scope... and there were tens of thousands of natives.

Disease won the 'new world'. Singularly. Other bits were cream on the top (the other nations taking advantage of the situation to strike at the greatest nation around that was always warring with them... the noted technological superiority (body armor moreso than those others)... montezuma's religious idiocy)... but make no mistake: disease won it.

Angle is measured by degree, that doesn't make it faith. Faith may be measured by degrees, but it doesn't boil water.

(August 25, 2011 at 7:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: Take is easy, dipshit. Your hopes are not reality.

Mine are, though

@Nappy: insulting her's only going to make nookie less likely

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(August 25, 2011 at 7:12 pm)Shell B Wrote: No, I was working. Don't wait with bated breath for my replies. I quite frequently wander back to work and forget I was talking here. I think I did that to Rhythm last night.

But you'd never stand me up... right?

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(August 25, 2011 at 8:30 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Angle is measured by degree, that doesn't make it faith. Faith may be measured by degrees, but it doesn't boil water.

Exactly. I really have no idea why this is so hard for Ace

How do you know that faith doesn't boil water?