(February 3, 2018 at 6:21 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(February 3, 2018 at 3:24 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Also Nunes didn't actually read the FISA application: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018...t-erin.cnn

Plus the guy who actually did (according to Nunes), Trey Gowdy, stated on Twitter that:

"As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation."

https://twitter.com/TGowdySC/status/959495152770469888

It seems there are so many Republican talking points that contradict each other over this.

Trey Gowdy is doneskis, he's announced that he won't be running for re-election to his position.  Lelz.  Scrotus has been taking a heavy toll on the r's, of late.  The list of casualties just keeps getting bigger.

🤨<——  My face as I was sitting here, wondering if I should google the definition of the word “duh-nes-kiss”, lol.

(February 3, 2018 at 6:22 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

(February 3, 2018 at 5:17 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why?  Carter Page had already stepped down from his position by the time the warrant was issued, three weeks before the election, no less. And, by Trump’s own words, he never even met the guy.  That hardly qualifies as “spying on the Trump campaign.”

https://washingtonpost.com/news/fact-che...-campaign/

Yeah, I know.  Fake, fake, fake!

45 is Nixon on meth. Nixon at least gave up when called out. 45 doesn't have that kind of introspection. 45 would rather start WW3 than admit defeat.

Ideologies over ridding level heads.

(February 3, 2018 at 7:14 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Ideologies over ridding level heads.

Um no, 1 party and one leader out of touch with reality. This is way beyond politics as normal.

(February 3, 2018 at 7:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 3, 2018 at 7:14 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Ideologies over ridding level heads.

Um no, 1 party and one leader out of touch with reality. This is way beyond politics as normal.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

Can we all agree that the bar for getting a FISA warrant is way, way too low and apparently easily manipulated? In the abstract this isn't about partisan politics but rather the degree to which we are willing to give up our rights to privacy and allowing surveillance of American citizens that pose negligible national security risks.

Are you still going with that after all that's been said?

(February 3, 2018 at 10:08 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Can we all agree that the bar for getting a FISA warrant is way, way too low and apparently easily manipulated? In the abstract this isn't about partisan politics but rather the degree to which we are willing to give up our rights to privacy and allowing surveillance of American citizens that pose negligible national security risks.

No I don't agree, I think if the FBI has probable cause and they can demonstrate it to a judge, then they should be able to get a FISA warrant. Why do you think it has to be more difficult than that? This idea that this is a flawed process is being put forward by certain people in order to try and discredit the Russia investigation and to try and give Trump grounds to fire Mueller.