(February 15, 2018 at 3:36 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:Why? 
If you neuter a human or animal; you literally kill the sexual drive they have. They stop seeking mates, especially animals.

A known habit Ottomans used to do -for example-, was the neutering of slaves. A neutered servant is known as "Agha آغا ". Sad but it was an effective method to prevent the servants from sleeping with the Sultan's harem.  

That has frag all to dpo with being gay 

Quote:Addicts of transexual porn report a similar story -google it to believe me-, that they started with straight porn, then little by little they drifted to tranny porn. And got stuck there. The problem is so clear; they couldn't take their hands off their penises. It is a problem of excess masturbation, so hypersexuality is an expected suspect. 

That is the silliest thing I have yet heard

If neutering somebody is enough to "stop somebody from seeking sexual mates", then the role of hormones is the fundamental trigger; my thoughts about this might not be strange at all.

Quote:No: sexual drive is hormone based.
Love, romance originates in the mind.

It is "giving the hormone rush a meaning". That's why all cultures practice sex, but not all cultures focus on love and romance.

No romance is as much a chemical response as a sex drives .I have yet to encounter a culture that does not glorifies  love or romance in some fashion .

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Quote:If neutering somebody is enough to "stop somebody from seeking sexual mates", then the role of hormones is the fundamental trigger; my thoughts about this might not be strange at all.

That simply does not work

(February 15, 2018 at 3:40 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 3:12 am)Cyberman Wrote: Okay, so accepting that sexual and romantic drives are fundamentally hormone based - hormones produced in and by the body - that makes them... what?

Hint: it starts with 'n'. And ends with 'atural'.

No: sexual drive is hormone based.
Love, romance originates in the mind.

It is "giving the hormone rush a meaning". That's why all cultures practice sex, but not all cultures focus on love and romance.

99% of the time, love and sexual attraction go hand in hand. People are sexually attracted to the gender they feel romantic love towards, and people tend to feel more sexually attracted to the individual that they are in love with.
From this, it's hard to believe that who you love has a different cause from who you are attracted to.
Besides, it is all caused from chemicals in the first place, and I fail to see how that supports your claim that society is the cause.

It's long been proven that homosexuality is rooted in genetics. But just for the sake of discussion, so what if it weren't? It's a person's private right to do with himself exactly what he pleases, so long as he doesn't harm anyone else. Homosexuality harms no one (there's really no moral component to it at all) and it's always and only the religious who give two shits about it. Why do they care what other people do in their private lives? There's simply no logical answer.

(February 15, 2018 at 3:08 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 2:22 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

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Your belief is fundamentally wrong .

Why?
If you neuter a human or animal; you literally kill the sexual drive they have. They stop seeking mates, especially animals.

A known habit Ottomans used to do -for example-, was the neutering of slaves. A neutered servant is known as "Agha آغا ". Sad but it was an effective method to prevent the servants from sleeping with the Sultan's harem.

Quote:Hypersexuality is nothing like Homosexuality nice try .

Addicts of transexual porn report a similar story -google it to believe me-, that they started with straight porn, then little by little they drifted to tranny porn. And got stuck there. The problem is so clear; they couldn't take their hands off their penises. It is a problem of excess masturbation, so hypersexuality is an expected suspect.

I fail to see what porn addiction has to do with homosexuality. They are two completely different topics.

(February 15, 2018 at 4:20 am)GodisintheTV Wrote: It's long been proven that homosexuality is rooted in genetics. But just for the sake of discussion, so what if it weren't? It's a person's private right to do with himself exactly what he pleases, so long as he doesn't harm anyone else. Homosexuality harms no one (there's really no moral component to it at all) and it's always and only the religious who give two shits about it. Why do they care what other people do in their private lives? There's simply no logical answer.

Let's not say fake things , it has been found that genetics play a role in determining sexual orientation , yes. It has been proven that genes determine your sexual orientation,no.
It is an interplay of genes, hormones and enviroment that determine one's sexual orientation. Sure, scientist favor the biology theory but it hasn't been proven.

(February 15, 2018 at 12:43 am)Divinity Wrote:

(February 10, 2018 at 6:56 pm)Banned Wrote: The mouth was designed to be at the other end of the torso, for communicating. 

Funny, you were designed wrong then.  Cause your mouth spews shit, and you talk out of your ass.

If you are seeking help I'm obviously not the one to talk to.

https://www.healthyplace.com/abuse/self-...d-support/

Yeah religious people bash gays and yet, according to their own beliefs, if there weren't gays they also would not exist

(February 15, 2018 at 4:30 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 4:20 am)GodisintheTV Wrote: It's long been proven that homosexuality is rooted in genetics. But just for the sake of discussion, so what if it weren't? It's a person's private right to do with himself exactly what he pleases, so long as he doesn't harm anyone else. Homosexuality harms no one (there's really no moral component to it at all) and it's always and only the religious who give two shits about it. Why do they care what other people do in their private lives? There's simply no logical answer.

Let's not say fake things , it has been found that genetics play a role in determining sexual orientation , yes. It has been proven that genes determine your sexual orientation,no.
It is an interplay of genes, hormones and enviroment that determine one's sexual orientation. Sure, scientist favor the biology theory but it hasn't been proven.

Sounds like splitting hairs to me. My broader point was that the extent to which it's caused by nature or nature doesn't matter at all, as far as the morality argument is concerned. Either way it's not immoral, and no one's business.

(February 15, 2018 at 5:06 am)GodisintheTV Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 4:30 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Let's not say fake things , it has been found that genetics play a role in determining sexual orientation , yes. It has been proven that genes determine your sexual orientation,no.
It is an interplay of genes, hormones and enviroment that determine one's sexual orientation. Sure, scientist favor the biology theory but it hasn't been proven.

Sounds like splitting hairs to me. My broader point was that the extent to which it's caused by nature or nature doesn't matter at all, as far as the morality argument is concerned. Either way it's not immoral, and no one's business.

Yeah I know but Atlass is pretty missinformed already. I had no objection to your argument, just wanted to be more precise on the informative basis.