Quote:Is there not a single fibre of your being that doesn't feel like an absolute twat every time you say that?

Nope..not a single bit...I call a black pot a black pot.

Quote:I'm completely sick of people here being called/associated with Nazis, it's no different to personally calling them racists/scum/bigots and from this point on I WILL be treating it like a personal attack, you or anyone else who tries it WILL have your warning level raised for it.

Then you have destroyed the freedom of speech on this forum that attracted me so much. If I do not have freedom of speech, EVEN TO BE WRONG (in your opinion)...then I no longer belong on this forum.

hmmm...punishing political speech...what other political group did that?

oh yeah...The NAZI'S.

(August 30, 2011 at 8:02 am)Tiberius Wrote: Can someone explain your "public" healthcare system out there? I'm not sure who to believe; some people say it's a step in the right direction, but other people say it's basically a law that forces everyone to purchase healthcare.

I've always seen the best way as somewhere between the two. In the UK, we pay a heck of a lot of tax just to fund the NHS, a service that some people go their entire lives without using. It isn't fair to take that service away from the people who really need it of course (e.g. poor people who have conditions they can't help), so some basic form of healthcare should exist. However, if you pay for private healthcare over public healthcare, that should be adjusted in your taxes.

Maybe some form of "step" program, where there is a minimal amount that everyone has to pay (provided you earn enough money to be taxed), which provides you with a basic service. Then have different levels of extra care, which are provided as long as you pay the required amount in tax.

I'd like to see the evidence for you claiming some British people NEVER in their life use the NHS!

Quote:while I take issue with being called a fascist too, my point was about Nazis,

Same shit, different label, VOID. Can't believe you actually prefer one to the other.


Meanwhile, to make the point a little stronger..this in today.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-2...91704.html

Quote:Where is it best to be a baby? Not the U.S. Babies born here are more likely to die during the first month of life than babies born in Cuba, Poland, and dozens of other countries, a new study says.

"It's not that things are worse in the United States than before," said Dr. Joy Lawn, a pediatrician in South Africa. "It's that the U.S. isn't making progress like other countries."

Yeah...but keep letting insurance company executives suck money out of the system in the name of "free enterprise." It sure as shit works really well!

(August 31, 2011 at 6:03 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Then you have destroyed the freedom of speech on this forum that attracted me so much. If I do not have freedom of speech, EVEN TO BE WRONG (in your opinion)...then I no longer belong on this forum.

hmmm...punishing political speech...what other political group did that?

oh yeah...The NAZI'S.

This forum is a voluntary organisation, one with rules that you agreed to abide by when you registered, specifically, you agreed to refrain from flame baiting and personal attacks and calling myself or anyone else a Nazi, suggesting that we're just like the evil tyrants who systematically exterminated millions of innocent people is not only deeply offensive it is BOTH flame baiting AND a personal attack.

Quote:3. No Personal Attacks

As a discussion based forum, the ability to interact civilly is very important. Attacks made in jest (with the understanding of both/all parties - tacit or otherwise) are allowed, as are off-handed comments that do not escalate into flame wars. Staff will take the context of each insult into consideration before taking action. Provoked insults (as determined by staff) will not incur a warning, but they are not encouraged. In the case of unprovoked insults, staff will attempt to ascertain if an attack was in jest, and will discuss the attack with both parties where possible and then decide what action to take. Members are encouraged to use the "report post" button if they find a post offensive and believe it violates this rule. This rule does not cover attacking someone's argument. It's perfectly reasonable to say "That argument is stupid", but it is recommended to back it up with sound reasoning.

This also means trolling, flame wars, and intentionally harassing other members with offensive material is strictly prohibited. Offensive language, images, or jokes are not specifically covered by this rule, unless it is done with the intent of attacking another member. If something is posted that is generally offensive to many members of the board, it may be removed pending staff discussion and disciplinary action may be taken.

Penalties for breaking this rule will include verbal warnings, official warnings, post moderation, and potential banning based on the severity of the infraction. No ban will be made without staff discussion first, unless the infraction involves deliberate trolling or gratuitous flaming."

http://atheistforums.org/rules.php

I couldn't care less if you disagree with me about any issue, you're absolutely free to do so, but insinuating I'm some genocidal tyrant, whether it stems from politics, philosophy, religion or ANYTHING ELSE is absolutely against the rules.

I call Godwin's law on this thread!

Seriously, ppl, get a grip.

(September 1, 2011 at 4:32 am)theVOID Wrote:

(August 31, 2011 at 6:03 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Then you have destroyed the freedom of speech on this forum that attracted me so much. If I do not have freedom of speech, EVEN TO BE WRONG (in your opinion)...then I no longer belong on this forum.

hmmm...punishing political speech...what other political group did that?

oh yeah...The NAZI'S.

This forum is a voluntary organisation, one with rules that you agreed to abide by when you registered, specifically, you agreed to refrain from flame baiting and personal attacks and calling myself or anyone else a Nazi, suggesting that we're just like the evil tyrants who systematically exterminated millions of innocent people is not only deeply offensive it is BOTH flame baiting AND a personal attack.

Quote:3. No Personal Attacks

As a discussion based forum, the ability to interact civilly is very important. Attacks made in jest (with the understanding of both/all parties - tacit or otherwise) are allowed, as are off-handed comments that do not escalate into flame wars. Staff will take the context of each insult into consideration before taking action. Provoked insults (as determined by staff) will not incur a warning, but they are not encouraged. In the case of unprovoked insults, staff will attempt to ascertain if an attack was in jest, and will discuss the attack with both parties where possible and then decide what action to take. Members are encouraged to use the "report post" button if they find a post offensive and believe it violates this rule. This rule does not cover attacking someone's argument. It's perfectly reasonable to say "That argument is stupid", but it is recommended to back it up with sound reasoning.

This also means trolling, flame wars, and intentionally harassing other members with offensive material is strictly prohibited. Offensive language, images, or jokes are not specifically covered by this rule, unless it is done with the intent of attacking another member. If something is posted that is generally offensive to many members of the board, it may be removed pending staff discussion and disciplinary action may be taken.

Penalties for breaking this rule will include verbal warnings, official warnings, post moderation, and potential banning based on the severity of the infraction. No ban will be made without staff discussion first, unless the infraction involves deliberate trolling or gratuitous flaming."

http://atheistforums.org/rules.php

I couldn't care less if you disagree with me about any issue, you're absolutely free to do so, but insinuating I'm some genocidal tyrant, whether it stems from politics, philosophy, religion or ANYTHING ELSE is absolutely against the rules.

So what constitutes as a personal attack can be changed and made up on the spot? Isnt that what you just did..just arbitrarily say "this form of political speech is now considered personal attacks!"?

Fine... if you honestly believe that is fair, then rate my warning level up.

My next post will be on current Republibertarianazis in the lime light..or something else dealing with the scum.

(September 1, 2011 at 5:40 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: So what constitutes as a personal attack can be changed and made up on the spot? Isnt that what you just did..just arbitrarily say "this form of political speech is now considered personal attacks!"?

Oh BULLSHIT, this isn't about political speech, it's about you intentionally insulting and flaming people, myself included - Calling someone a Nazi, insinuating they are just like the most evil genocidal tyrants ever to exist is pretty much the most offensive thing you could say to someone. I couldn't give a flying fuck if you disagree with me on political or any other issues but I will no longer tolerate being called a Nazi, it's nothing more than a personal attack.

Are we clear?

I gotta agree partially with Void while the first few times it was amusing now it's just tiring and extremely biased

(September 2, 2011 at 12:59 am)theVOID Wrote:

(September 1, 2011 at 5:40 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: So what constitutes as a personal attack can be changed and made up on the spot? Isnt that what you just did..just arbitrarily say "this form of political speech is now considered personal attacks!"?

Oh BULLSHIT, this isn't about political speech, it's about you intentionally insulting and flaming people, myself included - Calling someone a Nazi, insinuating they are just like the most evil genocidal tyrants ever to exist is pretty much the most offensive thing you could say to someone. I couldn't give a flying fuck if you disagree with me on political or any other issues but I will no longer tolerate being called a Nazi, it's nothing more than a personal attack.

Are we clear?

If I broke a rule, then rate my warning level up.

(September 3, 2011 at 3:32 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: If I broke a rule, then rate my warning level up.

That was your written warning, as per the rules, next time I will.