I have a bible and a qu'ran.

Haven't read the latter.

The both sit on the shelf in my home office next to my medical text books.

(March 26, 2018 at 3:19 pm)Drich Wrote:

(March 25, 2018 at 10:52 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I have my KJV! You have until the end of my day Easter Sunday to woo me over to your side! Any takers?

If I were to take your bible and show you everything you believe to be true, a lie. you would hate me and or God for destroying how your little world works.  

That said if you have a question or there is something holding you back, now is the time to ask it.

Mark 1:28 And immediately his fame spread abroad throughout all the region round about Galilee.

Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

Luke 4:37 And the fame of him went out into every place of the country round about.

Luke 5:15 But so much the more went there a fame abroad of him: and great mul­ti­tudes came to­gether to hear, and to be healed by him of their in­fir­mi­ties.

Yes I know this conundrum, shall we call it does appear regularly in these discussion but I thought perhaps you might have some new input. If Jesus was so famous then why is there no mention of him in history?
Drich, if you could address this without using the tired old apologist Josephus/Tacitus fall back then I'm pretty sure you will garner much respect around these parts.
I know it's a big ask but if you could just this once look at the story through the eyes of a non believer then you will understand why I refuse to believe it. Drich the story does not make sense.

Whatever.

Jesus was mentioned by Josephus, but even the early Christian scribes began to notice the obscurity of Jesus within Josephus, so much they were compelled to forge one of the passages:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus...lavianum_3

(March 26, 2018 at 3:37 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(March 26, 2018 at 3:22 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Everybody has a Bible, CL. Even us heathens.

I don't.  

Neither do I.  It's online if I need anything from it.

Do you have a proper cage for it yet?  (I was raised Pentecostal too, I actually have a collection of Bibles, as well as the Quran, the Bhagavad-Gita, and an English collection of Buddhist teachings.)  

An SDA chaplain told me that to understand the Bible you need hermeneutics.  My hermeneutics are doubt and distrust of authority.

That's because "god" is a shitty communicator.

(March 26, 2018 at 9:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That's because "god" is a shitty communicator.

It is amazing how much better a communicator Socrates was and he, also, might not have been real.

(March 26, 2018 at 8:15 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Whatever.

Every picture tells a story.