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Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
(March 31, 2018 at 12:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: If you say so..  Maybe you could present a demonstration specific to the point of contetion in thread?  Explain the justification for acquiring a sex slave and fucking the dogshit out of her?

I can try to a Christian if they are confused about it.  But the loud Atheists who constantly respond here will just tear me apart through their cultural framework, without reasoning, but just insults and attacks. Tongue

So if a Christian is confused about it, they can pm me.
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
Do you lack confidence in your justification or do you realize how fucking shameful it will inevitably be?

Under what circumstances can you justify the acquisition, possession and abuse of human chattel?
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
(March 31, 2018 at 12:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Do you lack confidence in your justification or do you realize how fucking shameful it will inevitably be?

I fear there is no benefit for me justifying it to you guys. Because it has no place in this century for sure and you will constantly judge it from your framework.
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
-and it's place in some previous century was.......?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
(March 31, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and it's place in some previous century was.......?

It has it's place and it's meant to be an evil consequence, just as jail is an evil consequence, just as war prisoners have a life of consequence.  It's meant among other reasons to deter nations from attacking other nations.
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
You mean to say they deserved it.  The slaves deserved to be captured, hauled off in chains, and sold to some asshole who couldn't afford a wife otherwise. That it;s meant to be used as a threat to competing nations..to scare the piss out of them that the armies of the faithful (often slave armies themselves) might just show up and chain-rape their daughters.

God approves of this, this is your justification?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
No, they didn't necessarily deserve it. It's a consequence they face due to their society.

That is why it's also good to free slaves.

Quote:  That it;s meant to be used as a threat to competing nations..to scare the piss out of them that the armies of the faithful (often slave armies themselves) might just show up and chain-rape their daughters.


For people who saw glory in battle, this would be a huge thing to deter them, as ancients would find this the biggest consequence. More harder then even the slaughter of their heroes and men.
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That's not what magic book says..but now you're telling me that it's just bad luck?  Guilt by association?

God approves of this? He tells his followers to acquire a girl for the purposes of sex because that;s just her lot in life and maybe it will keep him from sinning?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
(March 31, 2018 at 11:59 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(March 31, 2018 at 11:57 am)Grandizer Wrote: The way I generally interpret what I read is to take the words and intended meaning literally by default, allowing the overall context to determine whether I should adjust my initial interpretation in order to be in line with the context. What I don't do by default is romanticize the overall meaning of the text just so I can feel better about it.

I understand, but trying to seeing reasons that justify, aren't necessarily romanticizing it.

But if we already know what the justifications were historically, then why try to come up with better and fairly new justifications just to suit the sensibilities of the more civilized religious mind? It doesn't come off as honest to me. People back then didn't know any better compared to us, so they did shit back then that was considered ok to them but is now clearly seen as barbaric to us, and so naturally ancient writings are going to contain verses and passages that just aren't going to appeal morally/ethically to us. And this includes the Qur'an, whether you like it or not. There is nothing special about the Qur'an that would make me want to reconsider my interpretations of the more aggressive verses in it just based on your "what if" argument.
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
(March 31, 2018 at 12:13 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That's not what magic book says..but now you're telling me that it's just bad luck?  Guilt by association?

I explained as is.  You been told the place it had in the past. There wasn't war tribunals, and not every society could afford to have war prisoners and feed them,  as they couldn't even feed themselves often.

And for a people who saw glory in battle and conquest, yes, this would make them think twice or three times before they attack and be at war with the believers, who are at peace with who offers peace and will fight those who wish to oppress them and fight them.
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