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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
June 29, 2011 at 1:23 pm
(June 29, 2011 at 1:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Consider the amount of time most people have invested in confirming their religious views. It would be unreasonable to assume that there would be some sort of atheist nuclear bomb that would immediately and permanently erase all of that in a single statement.
To qoute Shakespeare "And many strokes, though with a little axe, Hew down and fell the hardest-timber'd oak"
It's okay by the way to say "I don't know" when someone asks you that....you could even follow it with "and neither do you"
It's an argument from ignorance.
Lol i know..no one knows what happened before the big bang but the difference between us and them is that they can't accept that ignorance of pre universe times. They want the answer on the spot...I think when it comes down to it people are afraid of death and what happens after. They desperately want an afterlife. But who would want something eternal like that anyway, you'd eventually get bored. Again they keep saying well "what happens if we die and go to hell." How could a hell or heaven exist anyway?! It's painstakingly a man made concept to satisfy or fear of mortality.
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
June 29, 2011 at 1:35 pm
"What if we die and go to hell" is begging the question, and if you don't duck, you might get hit on the head with pascals wager immediately thereafter.
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
August 7, 2011 at 11:03 pm
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As an ex-Islamic preacher, I would recommend learning Islam, Philosophy, and Social Sciences in the same time. The result will be Atheism.
At least that's what happened to me.
This is a list of people who leaves Islam.
Maybe reading their testimonial will help.
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/People_Who_Left_Islam
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
September 4, 2011 at 11:17 am
The problem with religion is it offers more than just belief in God in the Middle east in particular Islam is the glue of their society as well and that means everything from advancement career wise to marriage to family and friends.
Not easy to give that up and make things awkward for yourself.
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
September 4, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Have them blow themselves amongst fellow muslims to discover there are no virgins on the other side? Sorry, that was in bad taste.
But how is enlightening enlightenable muslims different from enlightening those of other religions whose religiosity is an acquired and happily dispensable trait?
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
September 4, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Its pointless to try to convert someone who has no interest in converting. you just come accross as annoying.
Answer questions as truthfully as you can.
Dont try to ram atheism down peoples throats.
But dont put up with their religious rubbish either.
Remeber why people dislike the jehovahs witnesses so much.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
September 4, 2011 at 2:14 pm
(September 4, 2011 at 1:29 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Its pointless to try to convert someone who has no interest in converting. you just come accross as annoying.
Answer questions as truthfully as you can.
Dont try to ram atheism down peoples throats.
But dont put up with their religious rubbish either.
Remeber why people dislike the jehovahs witnesses so much.
You surely have the point.
Let people search for their god, once they search far enough they will find that god doesn't exist (at least cannot be proven to exist)
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
September 4, 2011 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2011 at 2:21 pm by Rev. Rye.)
Here's a site which exposes the absurdities, and untruths of the Koran:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/
If they try to re-convert you, just recite Sura 109:
Say: O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine.
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
September 4, 2011 at 2:41 pm
The Sura to Al Kafirun ftw!
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RE: How to convert a muslim to an Atheist?
September 4, 2011 at 5:54 pm
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(September 4, 2011 at 12:55 pm)Chuck Wrote: Have them blow themselves amongst fellow muslims to discover there are no virgins on the other side? Sorry, that was in bad taste.
Worse than that, virgins or no virgins your gonna be pretty mad when you work out that dead people don't have penis's.
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