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Poll: How do you account for psychopaths?
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I don’t believe God is responsible for our morality
50.00%
4 50.00%
I don’t accept that psychopaths really exist
0%
0 0%
Psychopaths are choosing to ignore their innate sense of right and wrong
0%
0 0%
God mistakenly misses out psychopaths when granting morality
0%
0 0%
It’s the psychopath’s fault they have no empathy
25.00%
2 25.00%
It’s because of “the fall”
0%
0 0%
Other
25.00%
2 25.00%
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Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
(May 26, 2018 at 2:39 pm)robvalue Wrote: The odd thing is that I’m not even going to see any of heavenly rewards which supposedly make sense of this life which I hate. So I must be some sort of collateral damage for other peoples’ payoffs. Fantastic.
Only two kinds of people would consider the concept of heaven a reward . The insane or the naive .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
(May 26, 2018 at 11:46 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:

Quote:3 million children die of hunger each year, you're telling me that this necessary for some greater good? Why can't God just eliminate suffering and death altogether, it seems to me that God if he is all powerful could reach maximum goodness without all of the death, pain, and suffering.

People know that kids have to eat so if they can't feed them then maybe they shouldn't have them.  Even in America where we have the means and ability to feed everyone some pukes get ticked off when needy people get food assistance.  We can eliminate a lot of our own suffering if we really wanted to but some people are not interested in doing that.  Instead they want an imaginary deity to prevent it in the first place.
RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
Holy crap wyrd  Angry
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
It sounds like common sense at first, but it ignores our overriding biological compulsions while simultaneously presenting thew idea that the poor should not breed as a credible solution to a problem that...frankly..doesn;t have to exist but for the greed that makes those people poor in the first place.

(or, in context of the thread, but for the design that makes us need to consume others and the subsequent apathy of the creator who arranged things in this way.)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
(May 26, 2018 at 4:19 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It sounds like common sense at first, but it ignores our overriding biological compulsions while simultaneously presenting thew idea that the poor should not breed as a credible solution to a problem that...frankly..doesn;t have to exist but for the greed that makes those people poor in the first place.

(or, in context of the thread, but for the design that makes us need to consume others and the subsequent apathy of the creator who arranged things in this way)
Not to mention the creepily eugenics like implication that your material status should determine whether or not it's permissible for you to reproduce. I'm pretty sure if we went back far enough everyone here is the product of poor people screwing .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
God and society are the archetypal absentee fathers...their children are starving, and in the face of this both dicks blame the children for their privation. Meanwhile, if poor people stopped fucking, there wouldn;t be anyone to support the lives (or faiths) of the assholes shifting their responsibilities onto those they have harmed.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
I'm an all out anti-natalist so I can roll just fine with not giving birth to people.

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"It is not only the ratio of pleasure to pain that determines the quality of a life, but also the sheer quantity of pain. Once a certain threshold of pain is passed, no amount of pleasure can compensate for it." - David Benetar

"If you’re thinking about bringing someone into existence, you’re not just thinking about when they’re young, but also when they’re in their eighties. Parents don’t think about the cancer that will ravage their future child’s body decades after they themselves die. " - David Benetar
RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
so the first life form got to thinking one dreary day and thought =this is all going to be a waste of time and effort and so it killed itself and that was the end of life for all time on the planet Xeroba.
RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
(May 26, 2018 at 7:35 pm)Edwardo Piet Wrote: I'm an all out anti-natalist so I can roll just fine with not giving birth to people.

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"It is not only the ratio of pleasure to pain that determines the quality of a life, but also the sheer quantity of pain. Once a certain threshold of pain is passed, no amount of pleasure can compensate for it." - David Benetar

"If you’re thinking about bringing someone into existence, you’re not just thinking about when they’re young, but also when they’re in their eighties. Parents don’t think about the cancer that will ravage their future child’s body decades after they themselves die. " - David Benetar

This all sounds very nihilistic.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
(May 26, 2018 at 8:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This all sounds very nihilistic.

Nihilism. Heart



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