(July 21, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: And in one fell swoop, President dickhead has managed to piss away the equity we had amassed over two centuries of foreign policy. What a fucktard.

What are you talking about. Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Kosovo, Iraq, etc etc etc etc etc. Pissed away the trust in the US. If you think we've ammased some sort the f positive equity with out foriegn policy, you are out of you skull.

(July 23, 2018 at 11:09 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(July 21, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: And in one fell swoop, President dickhead has managed to piss away the equity we had amassed over two centuries of foreign policy.  What a fucktard.

What are you talking about. Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Kosovo, Iraq, etc etc etc etc etc. Pissed away the trust in the US. If you think we've ammased some sort the f positive equity with out foriegn policy, you are out of you skull.

We certainly has amassed historically unprecedented foreign policy equity since 1943, in the form of creating insternational institutions in which all the leading economies have deep stakes and of which the US is clearly recognized as the main facilitator.

Except for the USSR/Russia, all major economies of the world SINCE 1945 would prefer most of the world to be ordered as the US had ordered it, and acknowledge American leadership as creating the environment in which they can both prosper and remain generally physically secure. Any conflict they individually have with the US is limited in scope compare to the synergy they have with American global leadership.  This applies even to major theoretical peer competitors such as China.

It is this which trump pissed away. Now the world sees US as being destructive of the framework under which they’ve obtained general security and economic prosperity.

All because he thinks the whole world operates like crooked real-estate brokers.

(July 21, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: And in one fell swoop, President dickhead has managed to piss away the equity we had amassed over two centuries of foreign policy.  What a fucktard.

Not pissed away - spent.

No point in building up equity if you're never going to use it.

(July 21, 2018 at 2:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But he's right.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/iran-su...otiate-us/

Quote:Iran supreme leader says ‘obvious mistake’ to negotiate with US

Quote:“The word and even the signature of the Americans cannot be relied upon, so negotiations with America are of no avail,” Khamenei said in a meeting with Foreign Ministry officials, adding that negotiations with Washington would be an “obvious mistake”, according to his official website.

I cannot think of a single reason why anyone should ever rely on any commitment the US makes when it can be overturned by the first asshole who comes along.  The world does operate on 4 year election cycles.

I am with you there. The regime in Iran is obnoxious and toxic in extremis, but on this matter, Khamenei is absolutely correct. I don't much like siding with Iran, but facts are stubborn things and in this case they are on Iran's side. Whether I like it or not is utterly irrelevant.

The trumpwits will simply reject the facts and demand "alternative" facts. 

And the dumpster is in violation of twitters T&Cs by issuing threats of violence and should be suspended/banned for doing so. Will Twitter step up? Like hell.

(July 24, 2018 at 7:54 am)alpha male Wrote:

(July 21, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: And in one fell swoop, President dickhead has managed to piss away the equity we had amassed over two centuries of foreign policy.  What a fucktard.

Not pissed away - spent.

No point in building up equity if you're never going to use it.

Just like cash tossed into the fire is “spent”.   Why don’t you spend some more of your retirement this way, moron?

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(July 24, 2018 at 9:36 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(July 21, 2018 at 2:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But he's right.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/iran-su...otiate-us/



I cannot think of a single reason why anyone should ever rely on any commitment the US makes when it can be overturned by the first asshole who comes along.  The world does operate on 4 year election cycles.

I am with you there. The regime in Iran is obnoxious and toxic in extremis, but on this matter, Khamenei is absolutely correct. I don't much like siding with Iran, but facts are stubborn things and in this case they are on Iran's side. Whether I like it or not is utterly irrelevant.

The trumpwits will simply reject the facts and demand "alternative" facts. 

And the dumpster is in violation of twitters T&Cs by issuing threats of violence and should be suspended/banned for doing so. Will Twitter step up? Like hell.

The world will simply create multi-lateral institutions that exclude the US, much like TPP is now being renegotiated without the US.

Can my generation just take over, like, right now? We've proven ourselves during March For Our Lives, and it looks like we're gonna be left with a huge mess to clean up.
Honestly, I don't like the regime in Iran at all, but on this matter I can't help but side with them.

(July 24, 2018 at 11:20 am)DodosAreDead Wrote: Can my generation just take over, like, right now?

If you all voted then yeah, you probably could. I suggest you don't hold your breath in anticipation of that.

Most of us aren't old enough, but anyone born 2002 and before will be eligible in 2020. I do have hope, it seems like the majority is done living in a fucked up country that we are not even responsible for fucking up and wants change. But yeah, we won't know until then.

(July 24, 2018 at 12:13 pm)DodosAreDead Wrote: Most of us aren't old enough, but anyone born 2002 and before will be eligible in 2020. I do have hope, it seems like the majority is done living in a fucked up country that we are not even responsible for fucking up and wants change. But yeah, we won't know until then.

Bloody hell. I'm a child of the sixties, now I feel old.