Allah apparently couldn't care less about our wellbeing; it's just seeing if we'll say how great it is even after it allows horrible things to happen to us. The answer from me would be no. It can fuck off. Same deal with Yahweh, of course. And any other bored deity which thinks I'm its toy.

That makes you a bad person, according to assorted islamists like our boy and ISIS.

Ah, shit. I guess God will have to kill me then, just as soon as I move to a country with a brainwashed maniac who thinks it's doing God's work. Until then, God will continue to do nothing as usual.

I would imagine the suggestion of living peacefully among non-Muslims and respecting their beliefs would get you very much killed in ancient Islam.

ISIS is to Islam as Religion is to Religion.

(September 23, 2018 at 10:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(September 22, 2018 at 12:43 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Oh my God ! you actually reached this sad level of living in denial to throw the disgusting, shameful dark history of slavery of America on Muslims !.

What? That muslims captured and sold people that my ancestors couldn't afford to buy?  That's just how it went down.  The american slave trade depended on the islamic apparatus.  

Maybe you should learn to accept that fact?  The umma was a slave empire, full stop.  Your heroes owned people.  How do you feel about that?

Hey, you think that's some fucked up shit?  What the fuck is wrong with "allah"....huh?

Shit god is shit.

The evidence/sources are missing from your argument; and as I told you before: without authentic sources your post is mere word salad full of grudge and hate against God.

(September 21, 2018 at 5:49 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: So I wanted to teach him a tiny lesson that his alcohol is made nice with a field Muslims created -Chemistry-, and that he should thank Yemeni Muslims for sharing their Mocha with his ancestors and last but not least -and something new-: that the numbers he uses are actually Arabic numbers.

Chemistry arguably began in the Middle East/North Africa region, depending on what you count as chemistry. Long before Mohammed came along.

(September 23, 2018 at 11:14 pm)robvalue Wrote: Ah, shit. I guess God will have to kill me then, just as soon as I move to a country with a brainwashed maniac who thinks it's doing God's work. Until then, God will continue to do nothing as usual.

I would imagine the suggestion of living peacefully among non-Muslims and respecting their beliefs would get you very much killed in ancient Islam.

The constitution of Medina says otherwise:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Medina

Quote:The constitution formed the basis of a multi-religious Islamic state in Medina.[2][3][4][5][6]

Non-Muslims who are fair are better neighbors than a Muslim killer.

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(September 24, 2018 at 9:52 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(September 21, 2018 at 5:49 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: So I wanted to teach him a tiny lesson that his alcohol is made nice with a field Muslims created -Chemistry-, and that he should thank Yemeni Muslims for sharing their Mocha with his ancestors and last but not least -and something new-: that the numbers he uses are actually Arabic numbers.

Chemistry arguably began in the Middle East/North Africa region, depending on what you count as chemistry. Long before Mohammed came along.

I'm sure that Ancient Egyptians and Romans knew some very useful "mixtures" of elements, but chemistry as a scientific "field" that can be written on paper is the Islamic achievement. Like "H2O+CO2"...

I keep telling you that you'd learn something if you pulled your head out of magic books.  

Contrary to what you may have imagined, the transatlantic trade was not a bunch of white guys sifting the congo with human sized nets.  The arab slave trade has been operating since 700ad.  It was that market which was tapped for agricultural labor, a convenient arrangement for all involved parties...since the preference in the middle east was for young girls.  When the european trade ended, the arab markets depended on the US to dump the surplus males, and when the transatlantic trade ended, most of the traffic shifted eastward.

It's still ongoing, suppressed..but not eliminated, by pressure from western nations.

Atlas, even Muhammad thought the killing of the caravan people in the second attack was wrong. Your own prophet disagrees with you.

If the Muslims had a problem with Abu Jahl, they should have attacked him. The other examples of persecution you mention did not involve deaths. Attacking caravans is not a just response to persecution, even if a person is killed. What you're justifying is an escalation of violence and the killing of innocent people in order to indirectly harm the guilty. Neither are just, and the latter is an example of guilt by association. Either you believe that I am justified in killing you because you are a Muslim, or you do not. If you do not, then you're being inconsistent in your logic and are nothing but a hypocrite. I'm not allowed to kill innocent Iranians just because of what some other Iranians have done. You're simply advancing immoral justifications for the escalation and the killing. You're in no position to criticize ISIS and others when you do the same as them, all the while claiming that you're different. That just makes you a hypocrite and a liar.

Arguing with Atlas reminds me of this Monty Python video......