(October 16, 2018 at 2:13 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Trolls gotta troll . . .

Well, he admits it. 

Plus his kindergarten level meme supports his trolling.

Hey AM - POTUS is calling. He needs you to suck his dick again.

Quote:No, 1 ancestor 8 generations ago doesn't support her claims.

Only if your scientifically illiterate which you are

No one's calling you for sex, that's for sure.

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Seriously though, IMO I'm above average at offering support for my positions. If you guys don't appreciate my contribution, I'll just go.

No because she can get sex whenever she wants .But tell me Beta Fail what food item do you need to hang off your dick to even get you wife near it .

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Unlike you who is 100% idiot Beta Fail

(October 16, 2018 at 2:11 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(October 16, 2018 at 2:11 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: In as much as we can determine Native American ancestry from genetic markers, the tests do support it.  

No, 1 ancestor 8 generations ago doesn't support her claims.

Specifically which claim are you referring to here? The newsletter which Christopher Child reported would make Warren 1/32 Native American if her great-great-great grandmother were full blooded Native American. However that's not necessarily what the newsletter indicates, but only that she was listed as Cherokee on a marriage document, which could easily be true if she was only half-blooded. If that were the case, that would make Elizabeth Warren 1/64 Native American (presumably) which falls within the parameters of the DNA test which indicated she had between 1/64th and 1/1024th Native American ancestry (~ Boston Globe). The article also notes that it is possible that the test missed an ancestor, and that Bustamante was regarded as one of the leading DNA experts in the world. Rather than get ahead of myself, I'll wait for you to produce the claim that you are disputing. However, if it is the claim that Warren's great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American, it would appear that you are simply wrong on that.

(October 16, 2018 at 2:48 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Specifically which claim are you referring to here?

This: "Actually, you have it wrong about what it is I believe. My mom and dad were very much in love with each other and they wanted to get married and my father’s parents said absolutely not. You can’t marry her because she’s part Cherokee and she’s part Delaware. And um, after fighting it as long as they could, my parents went off, they eloped. It was an issue in our family the whole time I grew up about these two families. It was an issue still raised at my mother’s funeral. So what I know about my parents is I know that in that little town they grew up in that my father’s parents knew enough about my mother and her family to say I have no doubts.”

Quote:The newsletter which Christopher Child reported would make Warren 1/32 Native American if her great-great-great grandmother were full blooded Native American.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...at/257415/

Quote: Supporters touted her as part Cherokee after genealogist Christopher Child of the New England Historic Genealogical Society said he'd found a marriage certificate that described her great-great-great-grandmother, who was born in the late 18th century, as a Cherokee. But that story fell apart once people looked at it more closely. The Society, it turned out, was referencing a quote by an amateur genealogist in the March 2006 Buracker & Boraker Family History Research Newsletters about an application for a marriage certificate:

Lynda Smith said, "When Neoma's son William J. Crawford married his second wife Mary LONG in Oklahoma, he stated on his marriage application that his parents were Johnathan Houston Crawford and O. C. Sarah Smith and that his mother was Cherokee Indian."

No one has surfaced that document, and there's some reason to believe it may not exist. Lynda Smith later wrote that she does not believe she ever saw it herself, according to a report by amateur genealogist Michael Patrick Leahy, who has helped lead a full court press from the right on the Warren ancestry story, along with other conservative outlets such as the Boston Herald and the blog Legal Insurrection. (Smith declined a request for comment.)

The New England Historic Genealogical Society backtracked on Warren's ancestry in a statement Tuesday, saying the group has "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent" and that the Society "has not expressed a position on whether Mrs. Warren has Native American ancestry, nor do we possess any primary sources to prove that she is."

Quote:However that's not necessarily what the newsletter indicates, but only that she was listed as Cherokee on a marriage document, which could easily be true if she was only half-blooded.  If that were the case, that would make Elizabeth Warren 1/64 Native American (presumably) which falls within the parameters of the DNA test which indicated she had between 1/64th and 1/1024th Native American ancestry (~ Boston Globe).  The article also notes that it is possible that the test missed an ancestor, and that Bustamante was regarded as one of the leading DNA experts in the world.  Rather than get ahead of myself, I'll wait for you to produce the claim that you are disputing.  However, if it is the claim that Warren's great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American, it would appear that you are simply wrong on that.

No, it would appear that you're accepting hearsay regarding a document that no one can find.

Keep failing at refuting Jorm's comments and digging yourself deeper

Wow, even CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/...index.html

Quote:Twenty-four hours after Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren shocked the political world with a five-minute video (and a mountain of documentation) aimed at putting to bed the controversy over her claims of Native American heritage, it's becoming increasingly clear the strategy amounts to a swing and a miss.

Warren's goal was to take the issue of her heritage off the table for nervous Democrats and to show that she was ready, willing and able to stand up to President Donald Trump if and when the time came that she was the party's nominee against him in 2020. The problem is that, when you strip away all of the glitz of her well-produced video, you are left with this: There's still no certainty that Warren is, in any meaningful way, Native American.

Yes, Stanford geneticist Carlos Bustamante tells Warren in the video that "the facts suggest that you absolutely have a Native American ancestor in your pedigree." But the estimates of just how much Native American blood Warren actually posses range from 1/64th to a whopping 1/1024th. Which, um, ain't a lot.

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Real Cherokees are pissed:
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/16/17983250/...tion-trump

Quote:“Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong,” the statement from Cherokee Nation secretary of state Chuck Hoskin Jr. read. “Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

Hoskin’s statement also said Warren’s DNA test “makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses.”

lol

Goddamn she got her ass fucking trolled something fierce

It's 1/1024th cotton, so...100% cotton.