(November 11, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Everena Wrote:

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(November 11, 2018 at 12:33 pm)Joods Wrote: More classier than you'll ever be. And where exactly did I tell you what you experienced? 

Stay stupid. It suits you.

"More classier" Great grammar! And then you call me stupid? lol

Yes. I had to dumb it down for you.

Everena, it's time for your meds dear.

Why are Earthlings so special?

(November 11, 2018 at 4:30 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 11, 2018 at 4:24 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You forgot to post the evidence that supports that assertion ... take your time. 
It has been proven that the processes that could lead to life do not require any such agent. 
The thing is, you're just simply ignorant of that science, thus you jump to your "gap-filler" god.

The evidence is that everything exists. And it has never been proven that the processes that lead to life do not require an intelligent agent. Please present anything that you think disproves God. I'll be waiting (forever)

It’s not our job to disprove god.  You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.  Get to work!

MI6 has some intelligent agents.
Are you suggesting they are responsible for everything ?

Perhaps they made a time machine and went back to the expansion. The machine was destroyed and somehow an MI6 agent survived in the vacuum of space gaining all kinds of magical powers.

Oh wait, that sounds too far fetched to be believed.

(November 11, 2018 at 4:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(November 11, 2018 at 4:30 pm)Everena Wrote: The evidence is that everything exists. And it has never been proven that the processes that lead to life do not require an intelligent agent. Please present anything that you think disproves God. I'll be waiting (forever)

It’s not our job to disprove god.  You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.  Get to work!

It's not your job to prove what you just claimed? So are you saying you just made that up for fun?

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(November 11, 2018 at 4:11 pm)Whateverist Wrote:

(November 11, 2018 at 3:35 pm)Everena Wrote: I think hell is happening right here, right now, right before our very eyes. All it takes is observing and examining what is happening in the world. All around us people are celebrating and joyous. All around us people are doing kind and wonderful things. All around us people are suffering and in pain, and all around us people are doing horrifying, terrible things. Additionally, priests and nuns and monks take a lifetime vow of celibacy after claiming to have heard a "calling' and we spay and neuter pets and put animals in cages.

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I was raised by atheists. I was saved and baptised Christian, however I am not Christian. I think all religions are man-made, but with a good purpose in mind. I have eclectic beliefs.

So are you just trolling the forums by disputing evolution before conceding it and encouraging the perception that you support traditional Christian dogma before disowning it?

Do you have any ground of your own you'd care to share or defend?

I do not dispute evolution. Evolution is a human invented term describing a process that we discovered was happening. It is not a first cause of life, food, or anything else on this planet and it does not replace God, no matter how much you all may want it to.

(November 11, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 11, 2018 at 4:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It’s not our job to disprove god.  You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.  Get to work!

It's not your job to prove what you just claimed? So are you saying you just made that up for fun?

Reading comprehension issues?

You are making a claim that a god exists.  The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.  Get to work.

(November 11, 2018 at 4:16 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(November 11, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Everena Wrote: Yes, creation is a process that requires a conscious intelligent creator. We always have been and we always will be. Learn to live with it.

But that process does not meet YOUR definition, now does it. Woops. 
A "process" takes time. 
How can there be a process when space-time does not exist yet. 

Theology claims God exists in a "timeless" environment, yet constantly defies that by ascribing temporal acts to your god. It's meaningless tripe.  
Intelligence and consciousness REQUIRE time to function. If your god has ALWAYS been conscious and intelligent where did the environment come from in which it MUST operate ? It couldn't have created it, if it needs it. 

Oh well. 
Just another below-standard troll. 
When will they send in a good one ? 
We had one, (only one) once on TTA.

Science validly attempts to discover the "how" (ie what the process WAS), (not why) of how things came to be in their present state.
No one gives a shit about "why". Science wants to know "how".
I think there's a Clue Store somewhere. Perhaps you could buy one there.

Space time has always existed. Prove that it hasn't. Why do we exist at all? You don't think that even matters?

The evidence against a god existing is the universe itself. The natural universe. Nature exists.

Those two words. It's an independent state, not a dependent state.

For something to exist, it must exist within existence, within nature. Existence is dependent upon nature.

Intelligence is dependent upon nature.
It doesn't exist as it's own entity.
It's a time dependent state as well.
Thinking and acting are also dependent upon time and nature.
To think means that thoughts are occurring within a nature dependent state.
Actions only occur within nature.

Cakes do not create ovens.
Do you understand that sentence ?

(November 11, 2018 at 12:50 pm)Joods Wrote:

(November 11, 2018 at 8:09 am)Everena Wrote: I do not recall you asking me before, but I am here because I enjoy having discussions with people who don't necessarily agree with me about what I believe to be true. I am not jabbing anyone. I was simply reacting to being attacked and preached at.

Who's preaching at who here? As for being attacked - you came here with the express intent to troll. You don't enjoy having discussions with those who don't agree with you because you said so yourself. You don't care about the opinions of any atheist here. Your words assbag. 

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They are no more bogus than yours. Prove that God doesn't exist. Prove that we don't have eternal life.

Dumbass. What religious beliefs do atheists have? We believe in logic and reason and can fully admit that when we don't know the answer to something, we just don't know. Your go to is the piss poor "goddidit" routine. FOAD.

You use absolutely no logic at all, or you would realize what is so abundantly clear to 93% of the world.

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(November 11, 2018 at 4:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(November 11, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Everena Wrote: It's not your job to prove what you just claimed? So are you saying you just made that up for fun?

Reading comprehension issues?

You are making a claim that a god exists.  The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.  Get to work.

No, I read what you claimed and now you are backing away from your claim because you cannot prove it.