Unfortunately he gives no options 

All are pawns to noodly one .

(November 26, 2018 at 9:58 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: A Strawman argument is when you avoid the question that was asked and deflect by answering a different question. That is exactly what you did and you are now doing it again.

I'm finding it increasingly difficult to take your statements seriously, so I'll only respond to this portion of your reply.

Strawman Fallacy - Logically Fallacious
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tool...an_Fallacy
Substituting a person's actual position or argument with a distorted, exaggerated, or misrepresented version of the position of the argument.

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(November 21, 2018 at 6:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: We just popped out of nowhere in a meaningless, unguided, and un-created universe over a period of 4.54 billion years on an earth somewhere in the universe?  I'm not buying it.  The evidence points elsewhere.

This is a good example of a strawman argument. We aren't claiming that the universe just popped out of nowhere. It's entirely unclear that there ever was a literal 'nowhere' for it to have popped from. As I said, there are wonderful books on this subject that are quite accessible to the layman and should be a cakewalk for an engineer. You do want to know more, don't you?

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(November 26, 2018 at 2:50 am)Amarok Wrote:

The lawyer?

Hey Mister Agenda.  No, I did not intend that to be a strawman argument.  I don't play that game.  

Of course I want to learn more.  Steven Hawking determined that the curvature of space went to infinity at the time of the Big Bang.  That means there was no space, time, matter, or energy.  All this literally came from nothing.  Of course I am interested in your source as well.

(November 26, 2018 at 9:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 5:42 am)pocaracas Wrote: Here's Ramen:



You should try it. Any decent Japanese place should have it.
There is the risk that you might convert and become an FSM worshiper...

No, thanks.  I think I will stick with Christianity.

That stuff will clog your arteries.

Quote:Hey Mister Agenda.  No, I did not intend that to be a strawman argument.  I don't play that game.  

Of course I want to learn more.  Steven Hawking determined that the curvature of space went to infinity at the time of the Big Bang.  That means there was no space, time, matter, or energy.  All this literally came from nothing.  Of course I am interested in your source as well.

Nope 

(November 26, 2018 at 11:07 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

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(November 21, 2018 at 6:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: We just popped out of nowhere in a meaningless, unguided, and un-created universe over a period of 4.54 billion years on an earth somewhere in the universe?  I'm not buying it.  The evidence points elsewhere.

901

Science does not claim anywhere that "we just popped out of nowhere". That is a dishonest and ignorant characterization. You are also incompetent to evaluate what the science is, as you have no background in Biochemistry.

You responded "propaganda" .. faced with the myriad of actual experts whose jobs are to know about the science.
It's rather pathetic that you *need* to compartmentalize desperately incoming information, in order to keep your particular interpretation of ancient Near Eastern Literature (the Bible) safe from rational scrutiny.

See my post above.  The universe did come out of nowhere.  

The Bible has faced a ton of scrutiny over the millenniums.

1. Nope 

2. No it really hasn't and any it has had it has failed miserably

Quote:You are so completely ignorant and full of shit, it's mind blowing. Anti-biotics are a mold that was proven to kill bacteria way back in 1928 and anti-biotics were discoverd and invented by a Roman Catholic at a Catholic hospital and the discovery had nothing to do with evolution.

Ooooh. Yet another field we discover the Ignorant Woo Princess has NOT ONE clue about.
Well ya see, Snookums, penicillin was a mold, and the discovery was an ACCIDENT when Fleming accidentally dropped the mold into the Petri dish.
ONLY Penicillin is made from a mold. There are many others that are not made from molds.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2731226/
His being a Catholic or working in a Catholic hospital had nothing to do with anything, unless she's saying theists are careless clutzes and Catholic hospitals hire careless lab people.
WP is SO ignorant she could not even interpret what was said.
No one said antibiotics evolve, Sweetie.
Every day in every hospital lab in the entire world, BACTERIA are seen and shown to be evolving RESISTANCE to antibiotics.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/surviv...nt_04.html

Oh well. Dumb and Dumber strikes again.
Dayum.
She is one ignorant fool.

(November 26, 2018 at 3:55 pm)no one Wrote: Funniest thing about evolution deniers is that they accept science in every other aspect of their lives. The GPS on their phones. Their phones themselves. Their streaming service. The internet. Their heating and cooling system. The medicine they take. Even if the metorologist says there is a 95% chance of rain on Wednesday, most of them will carry an umbrella. But the science of evolution is somehow hogwash, and they have no idea what they are talking about.

I believe there is micro-evolution, adaptation, mutations,..., but not in macro-evolution.  I do not believe a species can change kinds.

Quote:The Bible has faced a ton of scrutiny over the millenniums.

And it lost in this one.

Quote:I do not believe a species can change kinds.

Why would anyone care what you believe ?
You forgot lesson 1 of PR.
Establish that you are credible. You forgot that part.

Quote:I believe there is micro-evolution, adaptation, mutations,..., 

Thus evolution 

Quote:but not in macro-evolution.  

Not really a distinction 

Quote:I do not believe a species can change kinds.

There is no such thing as kinds

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(November 26, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:You are so completely ignorant and full of shit, it's mind blowing. Anti-biotics are a mold that was proven to kill bacteria way back in 1928 and anti-biotics were discoverd and invented by a Roman Catholic at a Catholic hospital and the discovery had nothing to do with evolution.

Ooooh. Yet another field we discover the Ignorant Woo Princess has NOT ONE clue about.
Well ya see, Snookums, penicillin was a mold, and the discovery was an ACCIDENT when Fleming accidentally dropped the mold into the Petri dish.
ONLY Penicillin is made from a mold. There are many others that are not made from molds.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2731226/
WP is SO ignorant she could even interpret what was said.
No one said antibiotics evolve, Sweetie.
Every day in every hospital lab in the entire world, BACTERIA are seen and shown to be evolving RESISTANCE to antibiotics.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/surviv...nt_04.html

Oh well. Dumb and Dumber strikes again.
Dayum.
She is one ignorant fool.

She honestly the principle of evolution isn't used in anti antibiotics and denies the arms race of which understanding the evolution of bacteria is essential. Need i also point out that Fleming believed in evolution and himself used it in his research .