(October 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 3:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(October 5, 2011 at 6:18 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 5, 2011 at 5:42 pm)frankiej Wrote: I think I now see your problem with my anarchism... You have the need to have an authority above you.
I think you would find yourself helpless and without hope in a situation where you lead your own life without letting others tell you what to do.

If I did, as you have claimed about me, I would have voted for the leading party of Turkey. I did not, and I oppose their actions, and I condemn them at every turn.
I only recognize and support the authority that suits the ideals that I think are best for my people. And that authority will work for the best interests of my people alone, and not like the government that works for the best interests of others, while taking a dump on what I hold dear to me.

Ahhhh democracy eh mehmet??? Ya gotta love it.

I personally do not believe in democracy. Although our founding forefathers thought it might sound like a nice idea and all, people generally vote for people who generally throw a few pieces of bones in front of them, and eat the juicy meat and fat all by themselves.
There is a saying in Turkish "If you love, you'll get fucked, and if you fuck, you'll be loved" like it sounds weird in english, but it's very meaningful and all..

I think that democracy is a way for the people to vote, just to get their selfish wishes fulfilled by the party they vote for, if it get's elected, of course, doesn't matter if it provides good governance or not.
The multi-party system just kills everything. It is the bane of every man that votes, because unless there is a coalition, someone get's left out anyways, with no way of real representation besides MP's(good for nothing).

It's much better for most people to not vote and have the fulfillment of their most extravagant selfish wishes of a very small kleptocratic elite institutionalized.

(October 6, 2011 at 9:22 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 3:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(October 5, 2011 at 6:18 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 5, 2011 at 5:42 pm)frankiej Wrote: I think I now see your problem with my anarchism... You have the need to have an authority above you.
I think you would find yourself helpless and without hope in a situation where you lead your own life without letting others tell you what to do.

If I did, as you have claimed about me, I would have voted for the leading party of Turkey. I did not, and I oppose their actions, and I condemn them at every turn.
I only recognize and support the authority that suits the ideals that I think are best for my people. And that authority will work for the best interests of my people alone, and not like the government that works for the best interests of others, while taking a dump on what I hold dear to me.

Ahhhh democracy eh mehmet??? Ya gotta love it.

I personally do not believe in democracy. Although our founding forefathers thought it might sound like a nice idea and all, people generally vote for people who generally throw a few pieces of bones in front of them, and eat the juicy meat and fat all by themselves.
There is a saying in Turkish "If you love, you'll get fucked, and if you fuck, you'll be loved" like it sounds weird in english, but it's very meaningful and all..

I think that democracy is a way for the people to vote, just to get their selfish wishes fulfilled by the party they vote for, if it get's elected, of course, doesn't matter if it provides good governance or not.
The multi-party system just kills everything. It is the bane of every man that votes, because unless there is a coalition, someone get's left out anyways, with no way of real representation besides MP's(good for nothing).

It's much better for most people to not vote and have the fulfillment of their most extravagant selfish wishes of a very small kleptocratic elite institutionalized.

Well, it people were non-partizan, and well, voting in order to comply with the best interests of the people of the country, then and only then, voting would make sense.
I myself am non-partizan, although I adhere to an ideology, we do not advocate any specific parties that we should be voting on, simply voting for the parties that we think that might be useful in the fulfillment of the goals of the Turkish people, and comply with their best interests, even though they may vote for individual interests.

Quote:Vampirism, you mean?

No.

(October 6, 2011 at 10:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Vampirism, you mean?

No.

Than what?

(October 6, 2011 at 10:15 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 9:22 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 3:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(October 5, 2011 at 6:18 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: If I did, as you have claimed about me, I would have voted for the leading party of Turkey. I did not, and I oppose their actions, and I condemn them at every turn.
I only recognize and support the authority that suits the ideals that I think are best for my people. And that authority will work for the best interests of my people alone, and not like the government that works for the best interests of others, while taking a dump on what I hold dear to me.

Ahhhh democracy eh mehmet??? Ya gotta love it.

I personally do not believe in democracy. Although our founding forefathers thought it might sound like a nice idea and all, people generally vote for people who generally throw a few pieces of bones in front of them, and eat the juicy meat and fat all by themselves.
There is a saying in Turkish "If you love, you'll get fucked, and if you fuck, you'll be loved" like it sounds weird in english, but it's very meaningful and all..

I think that democracy is a way for the people to vote, just to get their selfish wishes fulfilled by the party they vote for, if it get's elected, of course, doesn't matter if it provides good governance or not.
The multi-party system just kills everything. It is the bane of every man that votes, because unless there is a coalition, someone get's left out anyways, with no way of real representation besides MP's(good for nothing).

It's much better for most people to not vote and have the fulfillment of their most extravagant selfish wishes of a very small kleptocratic elite institutionalized.

Well, it people were non-partizan, and well, voting in order to comply with the best interests of the people of the country, then and only then, voting would make sense.
I myself am non-partizan, although I adhere to an ideology, we do not advocate any specific parties that we should be voting on, simply voting for the parties that we think that might be useful in the fulfillment of the goals of the Turkish people, and comply with their best interests, even though they may vote for individual interests.

Indeed, everybody knows that everyone knows everyone else's best interest better than everyone else. This is why so many selfless societies of nonpartisanship have survived and raced ahead and prospered for so long.

(October 6, 2011 at 10:43 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 10:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Vampirism, you mean?

No.

Than what?

Just making sure you weren't suggesting some "eternal" punishment.

(October 7, 2011 at 12:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 10:43 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 10:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Vampirism, you mean?

No.

Than what?

Just making sure you weren't suggesting some "eternal" punishment.

Well, my ancestors weren't captured by him, though, he probably couldn't even catch them.
So I have no real trouble with him, but the Romanians don't seem to be hating him or something, so according to them, he ought to be in heaven, and the germans hated him, so for them, he ought to be in hell.

Besides, Vlad the impaler, from whom Stoker based his character Dracula on, didn't live in Transylvania, he lived in Wallachia, and was not a Szekely(Hun/Cuman), but a Romanian like John Hunyadi.

(October 7, 2011 at 3:18 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 7, 2011 at 12:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 10:43 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 10:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Vampirism, you mean?

No.

Than what?

Just making sure you weren't suggesting some "eternal" punishment.

Well, my ancestors weren't captured by him, though, he probably couldn't even catch them.
So I have no real trouble with him, but the Romanians don't seem to be hating him or something, so according to them, he ought to be in heaven, and the germans hated him, so for them, he ought to be in hell.

Besides, Vlad the impaler, from whom Stoker based his character Dracula on, didn't live in Transylvania, he lived in Wallachia, and was not a Szekely(Hun/Cuman), but a Romanian like John Hunyadi.

And both of these places are provinces of (now)Romania?

(October 7, 2011 at 4:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(October 7, 2011 at 3:18 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 7, 2011 at 12:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 10:43 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 10:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: No.

Than what?

Just making sure you weren't suggesting some "eternal" punishment.

Well, my ancestors weren't captured by him, though, he probably couldn't even catch them.
So I have no real trouble with him, but the Romanians don't seem to be hating him or something, so according to them, he ought to be in heaven, and the germans hated him, so for them, he ought to be in hell.

Besides, Vlad the impaler, from whom Stoker based his character Dracula on, didn't live in Transylvania, he lived in Wallachia, and was not a Szekely(Hun/Cuman), but a Romanian like John Hunyadi.

And both of these places are provinces of (now)Romania?

Yes, but Romania(aka Ciganystan) still occupies a portion of rightful Hungarian land.

(October 7, 2011 at 4:40 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 7, 2011 at 4:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(October 7, 2011 at 3:18 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 7, 2011 at 12:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(October 6, 2011 at 10:43 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Than what?

Just making sure you weren't suggesting some "eternal" punishment.

Well, my ancestors weren't captured by him, though, he probably couldn't even catch them.
So I have no real trouble with him, but the Romanians don't seem to be hating him or something, so according to them, he ought to be in heaven, and the germans hated him, so for them, he ought to be in hell.

Besides, Vlad the impaler, from whom Stoker based his character Dracula on, didn't live in Transylvania, he lived in Wallachia, and was not a Szekely(Hun/Cuman), but a Romanian like John Hunyadi.

And both of these places are provinces of (now)Romania?

Yes, but Romania(aka Ciganystan) still occupies a portion of rightful Hungarian land.

I gave up 'rightful' a long time ago and so should you. Romania is still what we may refer to as Trans-sylvania.. the last bastion of native forests in Europe. Interesting blood line Murad XIV had.