Unfortunately this is the new version of conquering. They just brainwash the public so that they believe it is something else. I really hope enough people start to realise what the mainstream media really is before that’s all they are able to hear; that day is not far off now.

(April 8, 2019 at 2:49 am)robvalue Wrote: Unfortunately this is the new version of conquering. They just brainwash the public so that they believe it is something else. I really hope enough people start to realise what the mainstream media really is before that’s all they are able to hear; that day is not far off now.

Unfortunately I think you are right and main stream media will be ignored. 
Its why civilisation peaked in 2015 and is now on a downward spiral because the "mainstream" is the only media that can be trusted in any way. The rest is all unregulated self interest groups and Russian bots all with an agenda that unfortunately is believed more and more.

So although I think you are right that main stream media will die I think you are wrong that its a good thing.

(April 8, 2019 at 4:30 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(April 8, 2019 at 2:49 am)robvalue Wrote: Unfortunately this is the new version of conquering. They just brainwash the public so that they believe it is something else. I really hope enough people start to realise what the mainstream media really is before that’s all they are able to hear; that day is not far off now.

Unfortunately I think you are right and main stream media will be ignored. 
Its why civilisation peaked in 2015 and is now on a downward spiral because the "mainstream" is the only media that can be trusted in any way. The rest is all unregulated self interest groups and Russian bots all with an agenda that unfortunately is believed more and more.

So although I think you are right that main stream media will die I think you are wrong that its a good thing.

how is mainstream media dying a bad thing?

Knee-jerk reactions to "mainstream media" is a bad thing.

(April 8, 2019 at 6:26 am)Cepheus Ace Wrote: how is mainstream media dying a bad thing?

Because uninformed and unaccountable amateur youtube vloggers telling you what they reckon to be true, from the comfort of their basements - that's not journalism. Without this so called "mainstream media" (like that's a singular entity, somehow) everyone's source of news will be their preferred facebook bot spewing propaganda, that an algorithm decided is right for their political and social views.

Newspapers and TV networks are obviously problematic, but at least they have addresses and people who can lose their jobs, if caught lying. I don't see why I should trust some random guy on social media to tell me "how things really are".

The "mainstream media" needs a reputation of reliability or people won't watch it. (Contrasted to Faux News, which has a reputation of saying what some people want to hear.)

I'm not wasting 30 minutes to find out if you have a point. Maybe you should post some dialogue and not just a vid

If your point is that Trump/USA is backing the wrong Venezuela leader because of the CIA, then the CIA must be pretty convincing. Look at how many other countries they've convinced: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47053701

(April 8, 2019 at 6:50 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(April 8, 2019 at 6:26 am)Cepheus Ace Wrote: how is mainstream media dying a bad thing?

Because uninformed and unaccountable amateur youtube vloggers telling you what they reckon to be true, from the comfort of their basements - that's not journalism. Without this so called "mainstream media" (like that's a singular entity, somehow) everyone's source of news will be their preferred facebook bot spewing propaganda, that an algorithm decided is right for their political and social views.

Newspapers and TV networks are obviously problematic, but at least they have addresses and people who can lose their jobs, if caught lying. I don't see why I should trust some random guy on social media to tell me "how things really are".

and how is mainstream media any different?

(April 8, 2019 at 7:26 am)Cepheus Ace Wrote:

(April 8, 2019 at 6:50 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Because uninformed and unaccountable amateur youtube vloggers telling you what they reckon to be true, from the comfort of their basements - that's not journalism. Without this so called "mainstream media" (like that's a singular entity, somehow) everyone's source of news will be their preferred facebook bot spewing propaganda, that an algorithm decided is right for their political and social views.

Newspapers and TV networks are obviously problematic, but at least they have addresses and people who can lose their jobs, if caught lying. I don't see why I should trust some random guy on social media to tell me "how things really are".

and how is mainstream media any different?

(April 8, 2019 at 6:50 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Newspapers and TV networks are obviously problematic, but at least they have addresses and people who can lose their jobs, if caught lying.