In some cases. In others, not so much. I think it's rational to spay or neuter, but not to declaw because I've weighed the pros and cons. I rescue animals and rescue organizations, humane societies, veterinarians all tell me the same thing.

You know what happens when you sterilize ferals and return them to the wild? They are the low cats on the totem pole and whole cats move in and either kill them or run them off. That model is common in the wild for many species. So, bottom line, you're just annoying the cats at minimum and condemning them to death at worst.

That's not true at all. Where'd you hear that load of malarkey?

Show me it's not true.

Actually the testicles are usually removed completely. That removes the risk of testicular cancer. In a bitch, the spay stops the hormonal cycle that can cause breast cancer.

(July 30, 2019 at 1:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Show me it's not true.

You made the claim. It's bullshit. The onus is on you to prove your claim, but you won't because you can't. You're just baiting.

(July 30, 2019 at 12:45 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You know what happens when you sterilize ferals and return them to the wild? They are the low cats on the totem pole and whole cats move in and either kill them or run them off. That model is common in the wild for many species. So, bottom line, you're just annoying the cats at minimum and condemning them to death at worst.

Because there are a lot of sterilized animals in the wild to make such a study.  All the sterilized bears and racoons and wolves...

(July 30, 2019 at 1:18 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Actually the testicles are usually removed completely.  That removes the risk of testicular cancer.  In a bitch, the spay stops the hormonal cycle that can cause breast cancer.

And severe infections of the uterus and cervix.

(July 30, 2019 at 1:39 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(July 30, 2019 at 12:45 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You know what happens when you sterilize ferals and return them to the wild? They are the low cats on the totem pole and whole cats move in and either kill them or run them off. That model is common in the wild for many species. So, bottom line, you're just annoying the cats at minimum and condemning them to death at worst.

Because there are a lot of sterilized animals in the wild to make such a study.  All the sterilized bears and racoons and wolves...

He just likes conflict. I'm pretty sure he doesn't even believe that.

(July 28, 2019 at 6:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I just read that this procedure has been outlawed in New York state, and I'm a little shocked.  New York is the first and only state in the US to make it illegal to declaw cats.  I'm shocked because I thought this barbarous practice would have long been illegal in all of the US, as it is in most civilized countries.

Boru

So it is ok to literally cut the balls off or surgically wreck the reproductive system of a cat... but not ok to remove it's claws. something only a feral cat needs.

what governs what is barbarous in your mind.. there doesn't seem to be a consistent standard.

idk about you I would rather have my finger nails removed than my balls cut off. In fact i personally incrementally remove portions of my fingernails on a very regular basis, yet have never removed any portion of my testicals. may even consider a surgery if I thought nail removal would be come a problem or difficult. (think feet problems with toe nails/people have them removed all the time)