You Brits have a built-in excuse that you rarely use. Winnie was 1/2 American after all.
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History Is For Suckers.
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 (November 15, 2019 at 12:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(November 15, 2019 at 8:10 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Sadly for Winnie the PM there's more than one version of history out there. (November 15, 2019 at 3:23 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You Brits have a built-in excuse that you rarely use. Winnie was 1/2 American after all. The brits face a conundrum. If they blame Winnie’s real faults on his American heritage, then they run the risk of having to also share credit for his imaginary virtues.  (November 15, 2019 at 3:23 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You Brits have a built-in excuse that you rarely use. Winnie was 1/2 American after all. He could have been half Martian and it wouldn't have altered grandad's opinion of him. Boru
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November 15, 2019 at 9:59 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2019 at 10:44 pm by The Industrial Atheist.)
Um reliable witnesses, sometimes text, sometimes living people? What's so hard about that? Historians basically can be a lot like private investigators.
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 (November 16, 2019 at 11:08 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: The objective was to stop communism from spreading any further. It didn't. How much further did it spread? And, of course, the Soviets spent themselves into oblivion trying to keep up with the non-communists, a much more subtle war that played to the capitalists' strengths.  (November 14, 2019 at 9:37 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(November 14, 2019 at 9:22 pm)redpill Wrote: Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing. If it were only true." Most often, what is history depends on the outcome of some conflict. As one truism says, "History is written by the victors." And when it comes to war, another truism says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Also, no doubt, demonizing the enemy is a tactic as old as the hills. Another thing is that it is well known that one country's villain is another countries hero. From what I remember, Santayana basically said, "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it." But you can expect even worse when the history you think you know is a load of bullshit to begin with. In that regard, history is for suckers. Do you think you have what it takes to take the red pill and learn the truth about history? Send me a PM if you do. |
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