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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 2:11 pm
You brought religion into this
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 2:31 pm
(December 28, 2019 at 9:53 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (December 28, 2019 at 9:23 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Peculiar, you evos are giving the fruit flies a good leaving alone. Telling.
Are you kidding me? For like...the fourth time now, @Yukon_Jack:
How did god design and create DNA? How many times are you going to avoid a direct question about your own damn argument?
How? Seriously you’re asking me how?
Do I have that much insight to the supernatural ?
I can tell you that abiogenesis ain’t possible so where does that leave you?
Oh and about those fruit flies you dare not touch?
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 2:32 pm
(December 29, 2019 at 1:26 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (December 29, 2019 at 1:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Ffs, John. Your religious views, next to your handle, state “Christian”. So, if you don’t accept evolution by natural selection as the best explanation for the diversity of life on earth, which can be easily inferred from the content of your posts on the subject, then it is perfectly reasonable for me or anyone else to also infer that you have an alternative explanation in mind; one that you must think fits the facts better than evolution. That you prefer not to foster a positive case for your belief to a forum full of atheists (I don’t blame you; you’d get hammered) only demonstrates your lack of confidence in the merits of any such argument. Very telling. If you wish people to stop making inferences about whether or not you believe god is responsible for the diversity of life on earth, then tell the truth. I see you skipped over my question to you about the horseshoe crab.
I don't mind you making inferences, just don't use those inferences as strawman. The processes of evolution aren't even at odds with Christianity, since creation is concerned with origins, not what happens after; evolution is concerned with what happens after, not origins. Strawmen are tempting and easy to make, that's why its important to recognize when one is making them.
So all of this whining about evolution is an irrelevant diversion? Your actual point is abiogenesis? And you lied about it? And Yukon Jack is wrong?
How very very christian.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 2:33 pm
(December 29, 2019 at 2:32 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: So all of this whining about evolution is an irrelevant diversion? Your actual point is abiogenesis? And you lied about it? And Yukon Jack is wrong?
How very very christian.
Strawman.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 2:35 pm
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Quote:How? Seriously you’re asking me how?
Ridicule isn't an answer
Quote:Do I have that much insight to the supernatural ?
The irony of you telling people they don't have insight into something
Quote:I can tell you that abiogenesis ain’t possible so where does that leave you?
No you can assert badly that it isn't .Then deploy a fallacy to push an alternative
Quote:Oh and about those fruit flies you dare not touch?
Ignoring your ignorance of Lenski's work is valid
(December 29, 2019 at 2:33 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (December 29, 2019 at 2:32 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: So all of this whining about evolution is an irrelevant diversion? Your actual point is abiogenesis? And you lied about it? And Yukon Jack is wrong?
How very very christian.
Strawman. Nope
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 3:21 pm
(December 29, 2019 at 2:08 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (December 29, 2019 at 1:44 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: But you did talk about your beliefs, you yourself started referring to Bible when we said that DNA is too flawed to be designed so cut the crap.
That's not a personal belief; irrespective of anyone's opinion of the bible, it attempts to explain imperfection. But I agree however, that responding to my comments on the bible when the bible was being discussed, is not a strawman.
Nope, we simply said that DNA is too flawed to be designed and then you initiated Bible talk and Eden.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 3:39 pm
(December 29, 2019 at 3:21 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Nope, we simply said that DNA is too flawed to be designed and then you initiated Bible talk and Eden.
Designed doesn't necessarily imply perfect.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 3:43 pm
(December 29, 2019 at 3:39 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: (December 29, 2019 at 3:21 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Nope, we simply said that DNA is too flawed to be designed and then you initiated Bible talk and Eden.
Designed doesn't necessarily imply perfect. There is no reason it shouldn't be perfect if it's a product of god
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 3:44 pm
(December 29, 2019 at 3:43 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: There is no reason it shouldn't be perfect if it's a product of god
That there is no reason is irrelevant, a perfect God can create an imperfect product, there is no logical problem about it.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 3:47 pm
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(December 29, 2019 at 3:44 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: (December 29, 2019 at 3:43 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: There is no reason it shouldn't be perfect if it's a product of god
That there is no reason is irrelevant, a perfect God can create an imperfect product, there is no logical problem about it. Actually it is relevant .Just because you don't want to address it doesn't make not so .
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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