(January 18, 2020 at 1:48 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Wait. Are we on "ping" or "pong". I lost track.

We are on “bong”.

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Regarding whether the US could be relied upon, the question is relied upon for what?

Can the US be relied upon to think more far more highly of itself than can justified by its own desserts? You can absolutely rely upon that till hell freezes over. Even then the frozen US would still think of itself as being the hottest thing since the Big Bang. It would still consider it an open question whether it was in fact hotter than the Big Bang, depending on whether it was an atheist Big Bang or a creationist Big Bang.

And there we have the damned if you do, damned if you don't.

(January 18, 2020 at 5:06 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And there we have the damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 
No.  


Damned if you do and damned if you don’t is nothing more than a crass excuse to act reprehensibly in short sighted selfishness and abjuring any moral responsibility to the greater good.  If there is Concern for the greater good, then one of those two damnations would be from a side not worth considering.   Which side’s damnation is of concern to you then governs how you should act.

You don't understand what I said, obviously. The phrase means we will catch hell from somebody regardless of what we do. You're a good example of this.

The Bullshit.  There are all sorts of things American could and should do, which if America had done, would have not only drawn no specific condemnation from me, but would have lessened general condemnation it deserved.

The Bullshit.

(January 18, 2020 at 6:52 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Bullshit.

Face it, Not all parts of the world are as self important, or as fickle, or as ignorant and gullible, or easily led to bullshit and superstition, or overawed by foolish rhetorics,  or as oblivious to its own hypocrisy, or wear the disguise of generosity as easily  while motivated so purely by not just self-interest of its whole, but self-interest of just a small part of itself, as america.

More The Bullshit.

(January 18, 2020 at 7:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: More The Bullshit.

(January 18, 2020 at 7:14 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(January 18, 2020 at 6:52 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Bullshit.

Face it, Not all parts of the world are as self important, or as fickle, or as ignorant and gullible, or easily led to bullshit and superstition, or overawed by foolish rhetorics,  or as oblivious to its own hypocrisy, or wear the disguise of generosity as easily  while motivated so purely by not just self-interest of its whole, but self-interest of just a small part of itself, as america.

Actually, that's pretty much humanity in general. The US has a pretty bad case of it in a worse variety, that I will agree.