Priest "We don't know how exactly God made us"
*Fox News presenters listen intently, responding with patience and understanding*

Scientist "We don't know how exactly reality came into being"
*Fox News presenters laugh, responding with jeers, boos and eventually heckle the man out of the studio*

(October 21, 2011 at 1:04 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Actually, that's a better answer. The festering piles of crap that were Fandom Mauling and Attack of the Clowns (I and II) can be simply dismissed as "non-canonical" or apocryphal works. In fact, I only recognize IV, V and VI as canonical. Yes, there's the answer I'm going with.

I file the three prequels with T3 & T4, Highlander-any-movie-after-the-first, and Crow II as movies that were so bad I refuse to acknowledge they exist.

Family guy creator to make spoof star wars series.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15399909

(October 21, 2011 at 1:20 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Priest "We don't know how exactly God made us"
*Fox News presenters listen intently, responding with patience and understanding*

Scientist "We don't know how exactly reality came into being"
*Fox News presenters laugh, responding with jeers, boos and eventually heckle the man out of the studio*

THIS.
I was thinking this the entire time.
What a load of bullshit.

(October 21, 2011 at 7:53 am)Zen Badger Wrote: He also appears to be rather ignorant of his bible too since it states quite clearly in genesis how Cain was able to have kids.

Quote:4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Except that doesn't really answer the question of "where the fuck did she come from?"

There is no answer for that one.

(October 23, 2011 at 12:05 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(October 21, 2011 at 7:53 am)Zen Badger Wrote: He also appears to be rather ignorant of his bible too since it states quite clearly in genesis how Cain was able to have kids.

Quote:4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Except that doesn't really answer the question of "where the fuck did she come from?"

There is no answer for that one.

There's a apologetic argument called the "Pre-Adamites". By this theology, Yahweh pulled two different creations, explaining the contradictions between chapter 1 and chapter 2 of Genesis. Cain left one creation and moved to the one Yahweh created in chapter 1.

It's an interpretation that isn't widely adopted by Christians and while it does explain some of the problem reconciling 1 and 2, others remain unanswered. For example, why did it not occur to Yahweh to create woman right away when he had already done so in chapter 1? And why was it necessary to recreate birds out of the ground when he'd already done so out of the water in chapter 1? And why was it a problem that there was no man to till the soil in chapter 2 when Yahweh created the plants in chapter 1 a day before creating the sun and three days before creating humans?

To paraphrase a famous song, when I think of all the crap I learned from apologetics, it's a wonder I can think at all.

Yahweh's a fuck-up?

(October 23, 2011 at 1:54 am)Minimalist Wrote: Yahweh's a fuck-up?

You have to be real to be a fuck up. He's more like a badly written character.

"We don't know the answer to that question, so we'll pretend that it's not important and instead focus on whether or not you're being good enough to avoid the fires of HELL!!!!"

The cain and abel bit is actually a pretty rich story. Not that the faithful appreciate it.

The funny thing was that Cain was banished and marked by God for protection so that he wouldn't be killed by anyone. There were only Adam, Eve, and Cain left in the story, so who would kill him?