(April 2, 2020 at 6:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 2, 2020 at 12:55 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: How low can it go?

What's the price in your neck of the woods?

Here - (Michigan) it's $1.57 USD per gallon.

That's getting close to half of what it was last month.

I could give a shit how high or low fossil fuel prices can go. Our species needs to stop burning fossil fuels.

I assume this means you won't be using the services of your favorite taxi any more?

(April 2, 2020 at 6:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 2, 2020 at 12:55 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: How low can it go?

What's the price in your neck of the woods?

Here - (Michigan) it's $1.57 USD per gallon.

That's getting close to half of what it was last month.

I could give a shit how high or low fossil fuel prices can go. Our species needs to stop burning fossil fuels.

All the more reason you should care. If the price of fossil fuels stays low, there’s less incentive to switch to alternative fuels. The higher the price of fossil fuels, the more attractive the alternatives become.

Boru

(April 2, 2020 at 5:22 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(April 2, 2020 at 3:10 pm)Fireball Wrote: Lowest price for regular unleaded here in my area of sunny so Cal is $3.09/G.

Fill up in TJ.

  That's over 150 miles, one way.

(April 2, 2020 at 6:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 2, 2020 at 12:55 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: How low can it go?

What's the price in your neck of the woods?

Here - (Michigan) it's $1.57 USD per gallon.

That's getting close to half of what it was last month.

I could give a shit how high or low fossil fuel prices can go. Our species needs to stop burning fossil fuels.

So save the planet and become Amish.....

(April 2, 2020 at 6:57 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(April 2, 2020 at 5:22 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Fill up in TJ.

  That's over 150 miles, one way.

I hope you come back.

Quote:So save the planet and become Amish.....

Or gradually move us away from fossil fuels

^
To coal fired power stations which make "clean" electricity!

(April 2, 2020 at 11:36 pm)ignoramus Wrote: ^
To coal fired power stations which make "clean" electricity!

No

(April 2, 2020 at 11:36 pm)ignoramus Wrote: ^
To coal fired power stations which make "clean" electricity!

Burning coal boiler in a power plant to make electricity to power cars is actually cleaner than burning gasoline or diesel in an internal combustion to power cars.

Prior to electrification, private residences were heated by inefficient and comparatively dirtier means than a coal fired power plant. We saw gains in heat and in energy efficiency, without needing to switch out the fuel.

The DoE estimates that increased electrification will necessitate a 38% increase in production over the next 30 years, mostly from EVs. That's nationally, some states have it better or worse than others. The big issue with electric cars isn't whether or not we can make the energy or whether or not it would be cleaner - we can and it would be...but how to distribute it, how to manage the new peaks. Some states are running charging stations for the express purpose of collecting the data that would be required to plan for that.

(iirc, there are a few states that already make more electricity than the projected requirements, a consequence of seeing power generation grow while consumer demand remained flat for the last decade or so - so they do that, burn enough coal to produce the energy..... and people are driving around.)