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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 9:59 am
(September 2, 2020 at 7:50 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Claiming ethnicity is not about where your ancestors came from.
It is picking a period of time - and saying "my family starts here." It is also denying that the group you pick as ancestors (geoligically) were once immigrants to that area.
The Irish did not evolve in Ireland.
So if you identify as "white" you are denying your oldest ancestors - the humans that evolved in the Rift Valley in Africa.
And - as old time racists noted - one drop of black blood makes you black........
Conclusion - we're all black....
So what's all the commotion?
You have a point about ethnicity, but the commotion is about how we are treating each other. That's the problem, and until unequal treatment is solved, it's going to be hard to get past it, won't it?
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 10:00 am
(September 2, 2020 at 9:55 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (September 2, 2020 at 9:23 am)Sal Wrote: When did integration ever mean that you abandoned your heritage and assimilated into the culture of your surroundings? Are we the fucking Borg, or what?
American.
When asked where my Grandpa came from - I answer "Chicago".
Earlier than that?
Africa.
All the shit in between is just a series of household moving stories. Boring shit that makes not a wit of difference. You might as well ask "what star sign are you"?
I fucking agree....... So why do you constantly support bullshit white anxiety, and act like America is going to crash if we work to include more than white people?
America won't fail if we have less racism, less guns. It will fail if we let Trump sell fear.
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 10:30 am
(September 2, 2020 at 10:00 am)Brian37 Wrote: (September 2, 2020 at 9:55 am)onlinebiker Wrote: American.
When asked where my Grandpa came from - I answer "Chicago".
Earlier than that?
Africa.
All the shit in between is just a series of household moving stories. Boring shit that makes not a wit of difference. You might as well ask "what star sign are you"?
I fucking agree....... So why do you constantly support bullshit white anxiety, and act like America is going to crash if we work to include more than white people?
America won't fail if we have less racism, less guns. It will fail if we let Trump sell fear.
I am not going to explain myself to you.
It'd be like explaining the electoral college to a cat
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 10:38 am
Brian may be a cat to normal people, but you are not even cat shit to Brian’s cat.
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 10:47 am
(September 2, 2020 at 10:38 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Brian may be a cat to normal people, but you are not even cat shit to Brian’s cat.
For all your bluster you simply canct get your nose outta my ass...
You don't see me commenting on your every word.
Reason: you could bore the tits off a boar.
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 11:51 am
(September 2, 2020 at 10:38 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Brian may be a cat to normal people, but you are not even cat shit to Brian’s cat.
Sarah IS literally the cat! My cat is the fucking best!
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 12:16 pm
Ethnicity refers to the common social, national, or cultural traditions. We all have one, it's real.
Race refers to the imaginary concept of difference based on pigmentation. The commotion, is about race.
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 12:18 pm
(September 2, 2020 at 12:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Ethnicity refers to the common social, national, or cultural traditions. We all have one, it's real.
Race refers to the imaginary concept of difference based on pigmentation. The commotion, is about race.
What he said.
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 12:47 pm
(September 2, 2020 at 12:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 2, 2020 at 12:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Ethnicity refers to the common social, national, or cultural traditions. We all have one, it's real.
Race refers to the imaginary concept of difference based on pigmentation. The commotion, is about race.
What he said.
Boru Race is something we made up.
So too, ethnicity.
It's easy to look at someone's skin and decide what they are like based on that observation.
It's a bit harder defining them by virtually everything else.
It doesn't stop pigeonholers from trying.
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RE: The Truth about Ethnicity
September 2, 2020 at 12:51 pm
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(September 2, 2020 at 12:47 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Race is something we made up. correct.
Quote:So too, ethnicity.
incorrect.
Quote:It's easy to look at someone's skin and decide what they are like based on that observation.
It's not, at all. Hilariously, it's not even possible to tell if someone is white™ by looking at their skin.
Quote:It's a bit harder defining them by virtually everything else.
The only way to define people accurately is by things that exist, it's not actually hard - but if we're presenting ethnicity as more difficult to determine than race - you'd be wrong again, by any measure. It might not be possible to tell whether a mixed american is black or white, but it's pretty easy to tell a mixed american from a mixed uzbeki.
Quote:It doesn't stop pigeonholers from trying.
case in point.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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