(March 15, 2021 at 3:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 15, 2021 at 2:11 pm)outtathereligioncloset Wrote: Sheesh people, come on.  All Brian is doing is simply expressing (clearly warranted) admiration for his hard-working, skilled, immigrant neighbors.  You know, the same type of neighbors that that Trump called drug dealers, thieves and rapists.

The way immigrants from pretty much anywhere are treated in the US is a disgrace.  I have an in-law who is of Asian descent who has lived in the US for 30+ years.  Speaks English better than many, many American born people.  But, you know, the kind whose eyes above the mask can result in some moronic Trumpite bigots to threaten her and spit on her assuming she's personally responsible for Covid.   Why? Because the Dump that was Trump incited that kind of utter crap by calling Covid the "Kung-Flu" and "China Virus."   He may have been dumped as president but his legacy of hatred proudly lives on.  P.S.  On top of everything else, she isn't even Chinese, but all these bigots see is slanted eyes.

Just read the last lines of the OP:   "Point being, I really do get pissed at assholes who shit on migrants."  

Cause that IS the point of the post.

I’m not arguing his point, I’m not getting the whole driveway connection. And I’m pretty sure his neighbours aren’t ‘migrants’.

Boru

And from the sound of it - contractors were doing the work....

My guess? Brian just wants us to know how non- racist he is...... He wants us to think he' s better than " the other guys".....

Virtue signalling for dummies.

I have a similar story.

I & my wife's black son, who is transitioning, were watching gender-nonconforming Pakistani MtF lesbian refugees harvest watermelons.

They just kept scooping them up & stacking them into trucks.

Fast forward a few hours, they had emptied the entire field.

Point being, I, like many of my fellow Americans, have spent the last few decades in front of my TV eating MacDonald's and can barely stand, let alone squat to reach a watermelon, or lift anything heavier than the fat on my arm.

These gender-nonconforming Pakistani MtF lesbian refugees are amazing. I went over to thank them for the cultural enrichment they brought to America, but I fell into a diabetic coma after walking a mere five steps outside my front door.

But everyone saw my effort and clapped.

All I could think is 'God Bless America,' & damn those bigots on fucks news like Fucker Carlson that think this isn't the greatest the greatest country on earth has ever been. I really get pissed at those that don't appreciate this great, progressive country Yum! Brands and the Apple Corporation have built for us.

(March 16, 2021 at 11:23 pm)Seax Wrote: I have a similar story.

I & my wife's black son, who is transitioning, were watching gender-nonconforming Pakistani MtF lesbian refugees harvest watermelons.

They just kept scooping them up & stacking them into trucks.

Fast forward a few hours, they had emptied the entire field.

Point being, I, like many of my fellow Americans, have spent the last few decades in front of my TV eating MacDonald's and can barely stand, let alone squat to reach a watermelon, or lift anything heavier than the fat on my arm.

These gender-nonconforming Pakistani MtF lesbian refugees are amazing. I went over to thank them for the cultural enrichment they brought to America, but I fell into a diabetic coma after walking a mere five steps outside my front door.

But everyone saw my effort and clapped.

All I could think is 'God Bless America,' & damn those bigots on fucks news like Fucker Carlson that think this isn't the greatest the greatest country on earth has ever been. I really get pissed at those that don't appreciate this great, progressive country Yum! Brands and the Apple Corporation have built for us.

Slow clap.

Is this "neighbor" named Fernando?

(March 15, 2021 at 1:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 14, 2021 at 12:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think I missed something in that story. What does your neighbours building a driveway have to do with how migrants are treated? I don’t get the connection.

Boru

Fucks News and the likes of Tucker Carlson and Hannity, but especially Trump, if you went by their logic, migrants are dragging down the quality of life in America. 

We live in a nation where our OWN FBI has said that the biggest threat to our national security are not migrants, or Arab terrorism, but white nationalism.

I simply get pissed at the bigoted religious right. The Hispanic neighbors on both sides of my house have been nothing but good and decent. 

I get tired of the claims from the far right white, "They are criminals, they are taking our jobs."

'Our OWN FBI!'  😂🤣😂  Sorry, give me a second to catch my breath.

If our OWN FBI says something, could it be wrong? Is it possible that OUR LEADERS & their secret police might have something other than everyone's best interests at heart?

I too am tired. I'm tired of you personally authoritarian, jingoistic Colonel Bat Guano types that go on about OUR FBI, OUR DEMOCRACY, OUR VALUES, OUR CIA, OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, OUR MILITARY, OUR VETERANS. Jesse Ventura once got himself into trouble by saying 'Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers.' I think that applies even better to the Biden-boosters that make a habit of prefixing every corrupt institution in their rotted out husk of a country with OUR.

The trick is to bring the watermelons up to you. It's a long way to the ground from up here.

You don't have to trust the fbi to know that domestics are a greater threat than foreigns. You might notice that they have greater opportunity, and a much higher body count.

There's a reason I wear snake proof boots but don't build lion fences, eh? The snakes can rattle the bones of some dead lion all they like, but that's not going to make me take my boots off or keep me from realizing that they're snakes. Sometimes I wonder just how dumb white supremacists have to be to think that any of this would work - or even work on other people...but that's a question that pretty much answers itself when we consider white supremacists, I guess.

(March 17, 2021 at 12:03 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The trick is to bring the watermelons up to you. It's a long way to the ground from up here.  

You don't have to trust the fbi to know that domestics are a greater threat than foreigns.  You might notice that they have greater opportunity, and a much higher body count.

There's a reason I wear snake proof boots but don't build lion fences, eh?  The snakes can rattle the bones of some dead lion all they like, but that's not going to make me take my boots off or keep me from realizing that they're snakes.  Sometimes I wonder just how dumb white supremacists have to be to think that any of this would work - or even work on other people...but that's a question that pretty much answers itself when we consider white supremacists, I guess.

Really? No white supremacist has pulled off anything close to 9/11 yet.

Of course, this is all besides the point, because terrorism is more often than not the whirlwind one reaps after sowing the storm. The FBI is a secret police & propaganda operation meant to conceal that & direct the rage of the typical American slob at the government's enemies instead of at the government.

The Oklahoma City Bombing was retaliation for the mass killing at Waco.

9/11 was retaliation for the artificial famine imposed on Iraq, Stalin style, which killed half a million children.

The Pittsburg Synagogue & El Paso shootings almost certainly would not happened were it not for the tightening climate of political repression that makes it harder by the month for white supremacists to peacefully oppose the government policies they object to.

But Americans don't like to think about that. America is a nation of overgrown children, detached from nature, that never learned responsibility for their actions. And if America is a democracy, then the American people bear personal responsibility for the actions of their government, whether they like it or not. Uncle Sam sticks his fingers into the electrical outlet, gets a nasty shock, but instead of quickly learning that that isn't such a good idea, he cries about how it isn't fair & declares war on the electrical outlet, shoving his finger in there as hard as he can.

First it was the Muslims. America went unprovoked into the Middle East, to brutalise & humiliate the people there. When America got her nasty shock, instead of learning her lesson, she sent her mercenaries into the Middle East to destroy. She ruined Iraq & Libya, & even managed to destroy Syria without direct military action. With every nation she destroys Columbia's arrogance grows & grows, & it has reached a point not even TV-addled babies can ignore it anymore. Now she sets her sights on her own children, & has her FBI rage against how dangerous they are. How huge a threat they are because they've realised that their mother is a disgusting whore unworthy of their obedience.

But a good portion, maybe even a majority of Americans, are so infantilised they'll believe mummy when she tells them the bad men are to blame, even as her syphilitic face is contorted into ever more monstrous shapes by her own profligacy.

(March 17, 2021 at 11:59 pm)Seax Wrote: Really? No white supremacist has pulled off anything close to 9/11 yet.

Yes, really.  If you can't see why the terrorists who look like us and live here are more dangerous to us than the terrorists who live half a globe away and don't...it isn't on account of any of the stuff that follows below.

Quote:Of course, this is all besides the point, because terrorism is more often than not the whirlwind one reaps after sowing the storm. The FBI is a secret police & propaganda operation meant to conceal that & direct the rage of the typical American slob at the government's enemies instead of at the government.

The Oklahoma City Bombing was retaliation for the mass killing at Waco.

9/11 was retaliation for the artificial famine imposed on Iraq, Stalin style, which killed half a million children.

The Pittsburg Synagogue & El Paso shootings almost certainly would not happened were it not for the tightening climate of political repression that makes it harder by the month for white supremacists to peacefully oppose the government policies they object to.

But Americans don't like to think about that. America is a nation of overgrown children, detached from nature, that never learned responsibility for their actions. And if America is a democracy, then the American people bear personal responsibility for the actions of their government, whether they like it or not. Uncle Sam sticks his fingers into the electrical outlet, gets a nasty shock, but instead of quickly learning that that isn't such a good idea, he cries about how it isn't fair & declares war on the electrical outlet, shoving his finger in there as hard as he can.

First it was the Muslims. America went unprovoked into the Middle East, to brutalise & humiliate the people there. When America got her nasty shock, instead of learning her lesson, she sent her mercenaries into the Middle East to destroy. She ruined Iraq & Libya, & even managed to destroy Syria without direct military action. With every nation she destroys Columbia's arrogance grows & grows, & it has reached a point not even TV-addled babies can ignore it anymore. Now she sets her sights on her own children, & has her FBI rage against how dangerous they are. How huge a threat they are because they've realised that their mother is a disgusting whore unworthy of their obedience.

But a good portion, maybe even a majority of Americans, are so infantilised they'll believe mummy when she tells them the bad men are to blame, even as her syphilitic face is contorted into ever more monstrous shapes by her own profligacy.

Plenty of people have a legitimate grievance with the us...but not white supremacists.  The country has been nothing but good to them, and still is good to them, lol. They belong to the even larger category of people who have no legitimate grievance with the us, but feel aggrieved anyway. Governments pursue their own interests, and governments can even pursue an interest in conflict with it's population. That's been the nature of the relationship between our government and white supremacy since it was founded, for example. I find this unremarkable, but it's not written in stone, and even though we aren't actually a democracy, we can change it over time....and even if we did nothing, it will change over time as demographics change over time. The non viability of that ideology with respect to our government is demonstrated in the vast amount of voter suppression it takes for minority control of the us by the white supremacist faction.

Don't get me wrong, I'd certainly put the blame for the rise of contemporary white supremacy directly on our governments shoulders - but it isn't on account of not affording them the proper amount of freedom to do this that or the other thing. It's on account of having grossly pandered to them. It's not as if they can't march around town screaming about getting replaced by jews..with police escort. It's just that they won't stop killing people. Having helped to solve this problem in a particularly american way out in nothereistan, I'm sometimes surprised by how good we are at helping other people get rid of their ethnic cleansers, and how bad we are at handling our own. Perhaps we should spend some time cleaning our own house - and less time interfering in the middle east.

They've been sowing the storm, to use the phrase...for quite some time in this country....so perhaps it's time that they reaped that whirlwind? If and when we do handle our domestic problem, our government will use every toy we've invented and every abusive law we've ever crafted. Delicious irony, given white supremacy's support and glee for those policies whenever a brown is at the other end of the barrel.

*To prevent needless frustration going forward - let's just assume that sanitizing white supremacy is as useless a thing to try and have a convo with me about as any list of anti-american gripes would be. I'm probably not going to take issue with the things that a person who attempts either takes issue with. I'm on the USA#1 side of that division, and categorically incapable of crying into my milk over the plight of anxiously white separatists. I think that we should stop flirting and start shooting, if that's what we're going to do. Get it over with, see just how well the master race holds up to the machine that we've built for grinding people like this into dust under our boots and track. Give them a taste of what it means to be on the other end of the US gov in reality, rather than fantasy. Who knows, maybe some of them will finally abandon the ideology in fear and despair. Vae victus.

(March 15, 2021 at 2:11 pm)outtathereligioncloset Wrote: The way immigrants from pretty much anywhere are treated in the US is a disgrace.  I have an in-law who is of Asian descent who has lived in the US for 30+ years.  Speaks English better than many, many American born people.  But, you know, the kind whose eyes above the mask can result in some moronic Trumpite bigots to threaten her and spit on her assuming she's personally responsible for Covid.   Why? Because the Dump that was Trump incited that kind of utter crap by calling Covid the "Kung-Flu" and "China Virus."   He may have been dumped as president but his legacy of hatred proudly lives on.  P.S.  On top of everything else, she isn't even Chinese, but all these bigots see is slanted eyes.

I know a really nice family from here in Hiroshima who have lived in California for a long time. The dad has a good job and the kids are smart and bilingual. 

But the combination of increased racism and California burning down around them has persuaded them to move back here to Japan. I never thought they would do it. 

America is in steep decline.