(June 15, 2021 at 4:50 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(June 15, 2021 at 4:35 pm)Helios Wrote: 2.As for the infinite being argument. The idea a god couldn't find any way to communicate his own creation seems absurd.

God can't do what's logically impossible. It's logically impossible for an infinite being to physically reveal itself to a finite being.

Who says that God is an "infinite being" (whatever that means)?

(June 15, 2021 at 6:17 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(June 15, 2021 at 4:50 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: God can't do what's logically impossible. It's logically impossible for an infinite being to physically reveal itself to a finite being.

Who says that God is an "infinite being" (whatever that means)?

And who says infinite cannot do the logically impossible?

(June 15, 2021 at 6:17 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Who says that God is an "infinite being" (whatever that means)?

Well infinite being means - as you might have guessed - a being that is infinitely powerful, infinitely good, etc. And that's how we usually define God...

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(June 15, 2021 at 6:25 pm)Helios Wrote:

(June 15, 2021 at 6:17 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Who says that God is an "infinite being" (whatever that means)?

And who says infinite cannot do the logically impossible?

(June 15, 2021 at 6:44 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(June 15, 2021 at 6:17 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Who says that God is an "infinite being" (whatever that means)?

Well infinite being means - as you might have guessed - a being that is infinitely powerful, infinitely good, etc. And that's how we usually define God...

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(June 15, 2021 at 6:25 pm)Helios Wrote: And who says infinite cannot do the logically impossible?

Bold mine - 

Who is "we"?  Are there a lot of you in that head of yours?

So no actual answer then 



No surprise

Back to divine hiddenness, it's enough to say that we are not omniscient beings, and so the reason why a deity chooses to reveal itself through means other than direct physical reality might be beyond our understanding.

Why can't atheists accept that some things a deity chooses to do can be beyond us ? Apparently they have trouble getting past their own ego...

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(June 15, 2021 at 6:50 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Bold mine - 

Who is "we"?  Are there a lot of you in that head of yours?

Well, by we I am referring to the vast majority of people endorsing abrahamic religions.

(June 15, 2021 at 6:44 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(June 15, 2021 at 6:17 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Who says that God is an "infinite being" (whatever that means)?

Well infinite being means - as you might have guessed - a being that is infinitely powerful, infinitely good, etc. And that's how we usually define God...

I think you're confused. Traditional theology holds that God's omnipotence has limits, and I don't have a clue what being "infinitely good" would even mean.

Quote:Back to divine hiddenness, it's enough to say that we are not omniscient beings, and so the reason why a deity chooses to reveal itself through means other than direct physical reality might be beyond our understanding.

So in other words you have no real answers and it's "just mysterious ways " lol 

Quote:Why can't atheists accept that some things a deity chooses to do can be beyond us? 

Mainly because "mysterious way"s is a really lazy apologetic tactic

Quote:Apparently, they have trouble getting past their own ego...

Nothing to do with "ego". But please keep talking yourself that's the reason you fail 

(June 15, 2021 at 7:01 pm)Helios Wrote: So in other words you have no real answers and it's "just mysterious ways " lol 

Yes, and they are too hard for you to fathom. Now procede to bang your head against the wall.

(June 15, 2021 at 7:01 pm)Helios Wrote: Mainly because "mysterious way"s is a really lazy apologetic tactic

That's all we need to answer your stupid objections to hiddenness.

(June 15, 2021 at 7:01 pm)Helios Wrote: Nothing to do with "ego". But please keep talking yourself that's the reason you fail 

Well, you may notice that there are too many "lols" , "", and "you fail" in your answer. I mean clearly, it has everything to do with ego.

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(June 15, 2021 at 7:01 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I think you're confused.  Traditional theology holds that God's omnipotence has limits, and I don't have a clue what being "infinitely good" would even mean.

By infinitely good, I mean good in every way that is logically possible, or maximally good. The limits you're talking about are logical possibility. These minutiae notwithstanding, I think it's still accurate to use the term infinite.

Maybe God stays hidden because he’s got bad teeth and is self-conscious about it.

No sillier that any other ‘explanation’.

Boru