(June 18, 2021 at 2:28 pm)Drich Wrote: dear dummy.. because if you can not accept 220vac 3p exists, or do not still know why i used 220vac 3ph then sweetheart how are you going to wrap your mind around the power solution i created? Do you not understand if i am wasting time here with something i proved with many many brochures and links that all say this stuff exists on the market today.. that you are far too incompetent to understand what i did in what you think is an imaginary world.

let alone the industry specific refrigeration mods i made to optimise and sell this project

There is no advantage to it since the power consumption would remain constant due to the increase in current.  That's Ohms Law, fool. You were caught talking out your ass and must now keep dancing.  So, dance, fool.

(June 18, 2021 at 2:32 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(June 18, 2021 at 2:28 pm)Drich Wrote: dear dummy.. because if you can not accept 220vac 3p exists, or do not still know why i used 220vac 3ph then sweetheart how are you going to wrap your mind around the power solution i created? Do you not understand if i am wasting time here with something i proved with many many brochures and links that all say this stuff exists on the market today.. that you are far too incompetent to understand what i did in what you think is an imaginary world.

let alone the industry specific refrigeration mods i made to optimise and sell this project

Can you not quote the patent you hold?  What's the problem?

sold it, singed non disclosure non compete.  which means in an open forum like this i can not give out specs or specific details. i can speak in generalities. describe the product in no more detail than what an average sales pitch would have. I can show you some of the patent paper work. like the letter i received from the patent lawyer. no tech specs or diagrams. nor anything those pages contain.

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(June 18, 2021 at 2:54 pm)Ranjr Wrote:

(June 18, 2021 at 2:28 pm)Drich Wrote: dear dummy.. because if you can not accept 220vac 3p exists, or do not still know why i used 220vac 3ph then sweetheart how are you going to wrap your mind around the power solution i created? Do you not understand if i am wasting time here with something i proved with many many brochures and links that all say this stuff exists on the market today.. that you are far too incompetent to understand what i did in what you think is an imaginary world.

let alone the industry specific refrigeration mods i made to optimise and sell this project

There is no advantage to it since the power consumption would remain constant due to the increase in current.  That's Ohms Law, fool. You were caught talking out your ass and must now keep dancing.  So, dance, fool.

dumb shit.. how many times must i tell you that the power requirement were set by the use of a nicola tesla designed generator. 220vac 3phase was the generators out put power. why cant you understand this? why cant you accept this is an off grid commercial available power source and viable power supply with inverters and generators? 

again stupid, look at the pages upon pages of equipment commercially available right now that all uses this power supply.. the same power configuration you still claim does not exist.  

Just like amazon has pages upon pages of devises that create and work with this power configuration so Too was a refrigeration system was designed to run on this set up. That! my special needs engineer, is the only reason why we spec'd this equipment for 220vac 3 ph. it was designed to work with an off grid alternative power supply.

a power supply that became obsolete on an all electric truck, as electric trucks have no engines turning all the time to turn a generator or compressor. Nor a drive shaft pto. so a whole new powersupply and management system had to be created to work with the specially designed system..

Why can't you understand we did not use 220vac because i provided some sort of benefit? is english not your primary language? do you still not understand we are working with off grid voltages of which 220vac is one?

(June 21, 2021 at 12:47 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 18, 2021 at 2:32 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Can you not quote the patent you hold?  What's the problem?

sold it, singed non disclosure non compete.  which means in an open forum like this i can not give out specs or specific details. i can speak in generalities. describe the product in no more detail than what an average sales pitch would have. I can show you some of the patent paper work. like the letter i received from the patent lawyer. no tech specs or diagrams. nor anything those pages contain.

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(June 18, 2021 at 2:54 pm)Ranjr Wrote: There is no advantage to it since the power consumption would remain constant due to the increase in current.  That's Ohms Law, fool. You were caught talking out your ass and must now keep dancing.  So, dance, fool.

dumb shit.. how many times must i tell you that the power requirement were set by the use of a nicola tesla designed generator. 220vac 3phase was the generators out put power. why cant you understand this? why cant you accept this is an off grid commercial available power source and viable power supply with inverters and generators? 

again stupid, look at the pages upon pages of equipment commercially available right now that all uses this power supply.. the same power configuration you still claim does not exist.  

Just like amazon has pages upon pages of devises that create and work with this power configuration so Too was a refrigeration system was designed to run on this set up. That! my special needs engineer, is the only reason why we spec'd this equipment for 220vac 3 ph. it was designed to work with an off grid alternative power supply.

a power supply that became obsolete on an all electric truck, as electric trucks have no engines turning all the time to turn a generator or compressor. Nor a drive shaft pto. so a whole new powersupply and management system had to be created to work with the specially designed system..

Why can't you understand we did not use 220vac because i provided some sort of benefit? is english not your primary language? do you still not understand we are working with off grid voltages of which 220vac is one?

Never said 220 3p didn't exist.  Hell, we could make 221 or 222.  I said it's nonstandard and not what equipment is designed around.  Its funny you're still dancing without answering the question.  Patents are public information.  You could link to the application.  You're lying.  And a fool.  Keep dancing.

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(June 21, 2021 at 1:14 pm)Ranjr Wrote:

(June 21, 2021 at 12:47 pm)Drich Wrote: sold it, singed non disclosure non compete.  which means in an open forum like this i can not give out specs or specific details. i can speak in generalities. describe the product in no more detail than what an average sales pitch would have. I can show you some of the patent paper work. like the letter i received from the patent lawyer. no tech specs or diagrams. nor anything those pages contain.

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dumb shit.. how many times must i tell you that the power requirement were set by the use of a nicola tesla designed generator. 220vac 3phase was the generators out put power. why cant you understand this? why cant you accept this is an off grid commercial available power source and viable power supply with inverters and generators? 

again stupid, look at the pages upon pages of equipment commercially available right now that all uses this power supply.. the same power configuration you still claim does not exist.  

Just like amazon has pages upon pages of devises that create and work with this power configuration so Too was a refrigeration system was designed to run on this set up. That! my special needs engineer, is the only reason why we spec'd this equipment for 220vac 3 ph. it was designed to work with an off grid alternative power supply.

a power supply that became obsolete on an all electric truck, as electric trucks have no engines turning all the time to turn a generator or compressor. Nor a drive shaft pto. so a whole new powersupply and management system had to be created to work with the specially designed system..

Why can't you understand we did not use 220vac because i provided some sort of benefit? is english not your primary language? do you still not understand we are working with off grid voltages of which 220vac is one?

Never said 220 3p didn't exist.  Hell, we could make 221 or 222.  I said it's nonstandard and not what equipment is designed around.  Its funny you're still dancing without answering the question.  Patents are public information.  You could link to the application.  You're lying.  And a fool.  Keep dancing.

finally... you get it... now before we go any further i need to have you admit you were wrong. wrong about what (since according to your last post you were implying you are aware and always have been aware of 220vac 3 phase. 

So may i refer you to post 102 were you think 220vac 3p is bullshit: 

Quote:220 VAC is a single phase voltage.  208 is a 3 phase wye connection.  230 is the delta connection.  A journeyman electrician knows that.  You are full of shit. 

Again i do have letters from the people who legally filed for me. congratulating me for successfully filing a us patent. i would be happy to share pics of, as i posted these on my facebook some time ago and was cleared to do so. 
but know after the bull shit and sheer stupidity you had me go through before you would admit 220vac 3 phase was legit power configuration, i need to see some humility. some sign your not just some troll trying to put me through the paces. this exchange will be that sport, IT will be a give and take, or it will be nothing but an opportunity to rub in how stupid you were for not knowing basic power configurations well enough to identify a common off grid configuration.. and it took what a week?!?! and like 10 posts before you wanted to tuck tail and pretend you were not so invested in calling a whole category of power production BS!!! 
maybe you should have looked at those links before you made such absolute/cant come back from statements like:

Quote:I'm not clicking the links you spent an hour fiddling after.  I know US electrical standards and how to build an inverter.  220 VAC is standard, line to line, single phase voltage.  You showed your ignorance and got caught. 

"I know how to build an inverter, but i don't know it's potential power out puts, but they must be the same why would they be, i'm too stupid to google stuff.. so stupid i will put my career integrity on the line
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and when i told you you were not the guy to try and judge me... that you were clearly over your head because you did not even understand the issue i worked to over come! I was still patent and tried to give you the reasons why i was working with an uncommon powersupply.. So i re explain the product was an off grid self contain electric truck which was originally powered by a Nicola tesla generator. This alone if you knew who nicola tesla was you'd know not everything he did was standardized in the line grid. but here you go blasting off at the mouth with:

Quote:Certainly, what we measure at a terminal will vary due to loads.  But that's not what we design systems and equipment around.  Also, nominal 3 phase delta connected voltage is 230 not 220, which is the line to line single phase voltage that runs a household dryer or residential condensing unit.

completely oblivious to the details you claim engineers try and avoid, So and again and again and again I keep telling you over and over like a learning disabled monkey we are not working with in the grid, that off grid applications are different begging and pleading you look at the evidence i provided. then i'm met with this obstinate drivell:

Quote:There is no advantage to using 220 VAC 3P  over 230.  The equipment would pull 4% more current while consuming the same amount of power. You're dancing around like a fool trying to cover a stupid mistake all while avoiding the simple question that you most certainly have not answered.  The answer doesn't require links, especially ones that provide no specs, or are sales brochures.  The answer comes from the first paragraph of the patent application.  Just link to that.

 
look at how sure you were.. obstinate trash. when will you learn that if you are asking someone about something you are not the teacher?
So the weekend came
Then again after the weekend you double down with your 'reasoning why 220 is not a viable power configuration' 
me thinks one of your peers felt sorry for the teeth kicking you were receiving and explain to you what even a child could understand at this point.
then we come to your last post where you pretend you were on board this whole time? new, new, neee hooo hooo hooo. nope. we are not going to let you pretend you knew better when when you staked, and lost all professional credibility with your 220vac 3ph is bullshite remark, let alone the bollocks you pretended to have defending that lie for a whole week. 
Remember, you are the one trying to dig out of a professional integrity deficit.  IE Your reputation is shit because of what you said and obstinately stood behind a lie, for a week with out a google search to back your stupid ass. so now, if you want to proceed out of this hole you dug. i will again need your concession on the subject. I have never done this ever. but you made this different. not only was this personal to you, you were willing to lie and ignore truth to cast me in a bad light. that's scum of the earth shit there sport. So i need to know you are over this. otherwise you are not worth the effort. 
 i need you to write out drich was right, albeit it was an off grid power configuration.. 220 vac 3 ph is not bull shite. I ranger ( real name no cut and paste will be accepted) am a dummy, too proud to look shit up, when i think i know i'm right, and far too proud to be corrected by someone i think i am better than. even though that's like 3 different signs of dunning-kruger I have a personal hatred and will say and clearly do anything even if it means sacrificing my professional integrity to make DRICH look bad I will have clearly done this here. 
this is who i am, and i was again wrong and drich was right. please put this past us and i will do my best to try and look up things that dont sound right or seem familiar. after all we are talking about new product innovation and change will be expected, although not in the ways i jumped the gun and thought..
All that so that we may continue the discussion.
do something like that.

Talking to drick is like clapping with 1 hand.

Drick thinks Land of the Lost is a documentary. I wouldn't be surprised if drick thinks it's actual footage.

Just answer the original question, fool.  What was innovative and patentable?  No need for photos or letters.  Just a simple, straightforward answer.  With no dancing.

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(June 21, 2021 at 3:46 pm)Drich Wrote: Remember, you are the one trying to dig out of a professional integrity deficit.  IE Your reputation is shit because of what you said and obstinately stood behind a lie, for a week with out a google search to back your stupid ass. so now, if you want to proceed out of this hole you dug. i will again need your concession on the subject. I have never done this ever. but you made this different. not only was this personal to you, you were willing to lie and ignore truth to cast me in a bad light. that's scum of the earth shit there sport. So i need to know you are over this. otherwise you are not worth the effort. 
 i need you to write out drich was right, albeit it was an off grid power configuration.. 220 vac 3 ph is not bull shite. I ranger ( real name no cut and paste will be accepted) am a dummy, too proud to look shit up, when i think i know i'm right, and far too proud to be corrected by someone i think i am better than. even though that's like 3 different signs of dunning-kruger I have a personal hatred and will say and clearly do anything even if it means sacrificing my professional integrity to make DRICH look bad I will have clearly done this here. 
this is who i am, and i was again wrong and drich was right. please put this past us and i will do my best to try and look up things that dont sound right or seem familiar. after all we are talking about new product innovation and change will be expected, although not in the ways i jumped the gun and thought..
All that so that we may continue the discussion.
do something like that.

Just answer the question, fool.  You write on and on about nothing.  Now you're talking in 3rd person like a crazy man.

Like? Dear old tricky drick is the poster child for lunacy.

(June 21, 2021 at 4:13 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Just answer the original question, fool.  What was innovative and patentable?  No need for photos or letters.  Just a simple, straightforward answer.  With no dancing.

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(June 21, 2021 at 3:46 pm)Drich Wrote: Remember, you are the one trying to dig out of a professional integrity deficit.  IE Your reputation is shit because of what you said and obstinately stood behind a lie, for a week with out a google search to back your stupid ass. so now, if you want to proceed out of this hole you dug. i will again need your concession on the subject. I have never done this ever. but you made this different. not only was this personal to you, you were willing to lie and ignore truth to cast me in a bad light. that's scum of the earth shit there sport. So i need to know you are over this. otherwise you are not worth the effort. 
 i need you to write out drich was right, albeit it was an off grid power configuration.. 220 vac 3 ph is not bull shite. I ranger ( real name no cut and paste will be accepted) am a dummy, too proud to look shit up, when i think i know i'm right, and far too proud to be corrected by someone i think i am better than. even though that's like 3 different signs of dunning-kruger I have a personal hatred and will say and clearly do anything even if it means sacrificing my professional integrity to make DRICH look bad I will have clearly done this here. 
this is who i am, and i was again wrong and drich was right. please put this past us and i will do my best to try and look up things that dont sound right or seem familiar. after all we are talking about new product innovation and change will be expected, although not in the ways i jumped the gun and thought..
All that so that we may continue the discussion.
do something like that.

Just answer the question, fool.  You write on and on about nothing.  Now you're talking in 3rd person like a crazy man.

He's not talking like a crazy man.  He is a crazy man.

I'd (not) like to see him and #37 have a "conversation" in the same room.