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forbidding people to love each other
#61
RE: forbidding people to love each other
Yikes, the reassertion are getting worse. I -don’t- allocate female resources, do you?

To me , that sounds like how you end up under some girl holding your own pistol to your head, mascara everywhere, screaming “ you know why!” At o dark thirty.

How many females, if you had to guess, would allocate themselves to you if they were aware of this belief? Who ... in short.... do you think you’re going to get into bed with you on this line?

Can you imagine how a man might gain from murdering a person who believes as much at the behest of the allocated female?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#62
RE: forbidding people to love each other
Quote:Barking is natural because dogs bark, barking occurs in nature. Can we have footage of you barking, wholeheartedly?
Yup barking is natural for dogs to do. The fact humans don't tend to do it does not negate the fact it's natural, And this is of course nothing like homosexuality which both species do. Thus this is a stupid argument that refutes nothing  Hehe


Quote:If you feel like there is something wrong with a human being barking- congratulations, you got it: animals' behavior shouldn't be the criterion for something to be natural.
I don't feel there is anything wrong with humans barking. It's simply we don't do as it's not how we evolved to communicate. Therefore you have not refuted the idea that things that occur in nature shouldn't define what is natural, And I will for the 40th time because something is natural does not make it prescriptive. So again this is a stupid argument  Hehe
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#63
RE: forbidding people to love each other
Kpop, you have zero comprehension skills.

It's amazing that you haven't licked a light socket yet to see what it tastes like.

Just keep regurgitating the same mindless drivel you have been trained to vomit up on command.

What a sad existence it must be to never have a single original thought, ever.
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#64
RE: forbidding people to love each other
Arguing against homosexuality by way of an argument for female allocation is profoundly vile...and more than a little bit ignorant.

- but, it’s natural.

It works until it doesn’t, as history shows us. I prefer a different way, a radical system in which the girl sleeps with you because she likes you. Apparently, humans have done this for some time too.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#65
RE: forbidding people to love each other
(June 30, 2021 at 7:56 pm)polymath257 Wrote: So, even under your definition, why would 'natural' be good?

You complain that homosexuality doesn't serve our instinct to procreate. To me, that is a positive about homosexuality! There are already too many people on Earth. We should be reducing the population through attrition as opposed to adding more to it.

So, in this sense, homosexuality may well serve our instinct for survival.

There are better ways to reduce population (or decrease the birth rate) like birth control. No need to encourage these sexual orientations. 

A word of warning though: All ideologies that endorse ethnic cleansing like nazism and such can use your same rationalization.

(June 30, 2021 at 7:56 pm)polymath257 Wrote: In any case, I find the whole argument to be silly. Most people don't choose who they love. They fall in love and decide what to do from there. And there is nothing inherently wrong with men loving men nor of women loving women. And, to go further, there is nothing wrong with people expressing their love for someone via sexuality.

Unfortunately, I am not bisexual, so I am not inclined to share sexuality with anyone who is not female. But that doesn't mean I am against others finding happiness in sex with whoever is willing.

What's silly is to base your argument on what people fall in love with.. you can also fall in love with your neighbor's wife, for instance, are you sure there is nothing wrong with expressing your love to you neighbor's female ? (Y/N)

(June 30, 2021 at 7:58 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yikes, the reassertion are getting worse.  I -don’t- allocate female resources, do you?

To me , that sounds like how you end up under some girl holding your own pistol to your head, mascara everywhere, screaming “ you know why!” At o dark thirty.

How many females, if you had to guess, would allocate themselves to you if they were aware of this belief?  Who ... in short.... do you think you’re going to get into bed with you on this line?

Can you imagine how a man might gain from murdering a person who believes as much at the behest of the allocated female?

Of course "allocate female resources" doesn't seem to be the best way to seduce a female -but who knows.?
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#66
RE: forbidding people to love each other
Quote:Well, if you apply your own survival criterion to homosexuality - homosexuality becomes invalid, only competition over females serves the survival of species. Clearly, promoting homosexuality is not the best way to allocate (female) resources.
This rests on a number of faulty assumptions 

1. It assumes you can make people gay by promotion 

2. It assumes Homosexuality will ever reach levels that can threaten the survival 

3. It assumes that Homosexuals can't reproduce 

4.That Homosexuality doesn't indirectly influence reproduction
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#67
RE: forbidding people to love each other
You do know what the words seduction and allocation mean, right?

- but hey, minor quibble about the English language. What I’d like to point out is that you just agreed to a refutation of your own allocation arguments naturalness, by your own self serving definitions.

See, easy to argue, hard to do it right, apparently.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#68
RE: forbidding people to love each other
Quote:There are better ways to reduce population (or decrease the birth rate) like birth control. No need to encourage these sexual orientations. 
Wheater's better or not does not argue against allowing homosexuality


Quote:A word of warning though: All ideologies that endorse ethnic cleansing like nazism and such can use the same rationalization.
Holy leaps of logic batman 

Quote:What's silly is to base your argument on what people fall in love with.. you can also fall in love with your neighbor's wife, for instance, are you sure there is nothing wrong with expressing your love to you neighbor's female ? (Y/N)
And you adding stuff to his argument that's not even implied .....Dishonest much  Dodgy


Quote:Of course "allocate female resources" doesn't seem to be the best way to seduce a female -but who knows.?
Umm, no females are not a resource. Nor are men.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#69
RE: forbidding people to love each other
Boinking the neighbors wife may be wrong, but that’s natural by your definition as well, kloro.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#70
RE: forbidding people to love each other
Hey kpop, believing in wish granting sky pixies isn't really natural is it?

Do you wear shoes? Do you pick them fresh off the natural groves of the wild shoe forrest?

I hope you never need medical attention.
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