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How do they know when God is angry?
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 (August 24, 2022 at 1:23 am)Tomato Wrote: None of that has to do with any deity. So you defend 1 / millions* millions * millions ... probability against 100% percent absolute truth. And the only explanation that you have is "I don't see him" Just look at his signature. And just think one more step ahead. He is there. You will see him. Just connect the eyes in your mind with the eyes on your head. 
You can see anything that isn't really there if you wish yourself to see it. It's called self-delusion.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (August 24, 2022 at 2:27 am)Tomato Wrote: You can see anything that isn't really there if you wish yourself to see it. It's called self-delusion. if you see a ghost in your house it can be a dillusion. if you and your brother and your mother see the same ghost same time at the same spot you can not claim that is a delusion. I am talking about using Universal Mind together. Not mine neither yours.
Collective believing is just wanting to believe because someone else does, especially where fallible faith is required to believe the thing exists when there is zero evidence to prove its existence.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (August 24, 2022 at 2:45 am)Tomato Wrote: Collective believing is just wanting to believe because someone else does, especially where fallible faith is required to believe the thing exists when there is zero evidence to prove its existence. Do you know what surprises me the most? The fact that men who lie on their couch, eat chips and watch movies can accuse the believers who still say "God is one" even though they are roasted under the sun in the desert heat and tortured under the rocks, as "They only believe with a herd mentality like sheep". How can you fully understand the psychology of a man in those conditions that you have never experienced? What is this but arrogance? The companions of the Prophet Muhammad were tortured, besieged, starved, and killed, but none of them turned from what they believed. Because people whose eyes see the truth cannot be changed by violence. Now, are you trying to explain all the suffering these brave people go through for the sake of their beliefs only with herd psychology? RE: How do they know when God is angry?
August 24, 2022 at 12:55 pm
(This post was last modified: August 24, 2022 at 12:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
If you're trying to tell us that a hard life might influence a persons religious beliefs..well...sure? This argument, though, is what we call "why would they die for a lie".
A good question, but people do, even you would agree that there are definitely people who have died for a lie, yes?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 24, 2022 at 12:55 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If you're trying to tell us that a hard life might influence a persons religious beliefs..well...sure? This argument, though, is what we call "why would they die for a lie". In that case, we need to carefully inspect their beliefs from beginning to end to see whether they were only deceived fools, or brave heroes. Faith is a double-edged sword, if you believe the wrong thing you will cut yourself. For this reason, you must decide carefully and rationally what to believe.
They could be both brave heroes and deceived fools. Honestly, I think that description would fit alot of our heroes, lol.
Can't say I disagree with you about the potential harm of faith, or that people should carefully and rationally consider their beliefs.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 24, 2022 at 2:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: They could be both brave heroes and deceived fools. Honestly, I think that description would fit alot of our heroes, lol. nope they can not. They can't be right and wrong, They can't be negro and white at the same time. Your beliefs can be true or false there is no midway between them. RE: How do they know when God is angry?
August 24, 2022 at 5:27 pm
(This post was last modified: August 24, 2022 at 5:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Brave hero and deceived fool are not opposite propositions in English. Most whites were, in fact, considered to be negros at one point or another. You’re welcome.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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