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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:27 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:25 pm)Helios Wrote: Yup
So the next time a Republican is a duly-elected President, they should have the same ability? Perhaps the previous Congress should have passed a bill enabling the President to act unilaterally. Oh don't be silly I highly doubt the next republican in charge will be elected and the Trump didn't need congress to do what he wanted his sycophants already let him essentially do what he wanted.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:31 pm)Dio Wrote: For one, it's anti democratic, just not anti Democratic. So you're okay with the anti democratic stance of Jayapal?
How can it be anti-Democratic if it’s been done by each and every democratically elected president using powers given to them by democratically elected senators and representatives?
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As I have mentioned, Jayapal wanted the BBB, a massive piece of legislation, pushed as an Executive Order. Nothing on that scale has been done as an EO.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:39 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:35 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:27 pm)Dio Wrote: So the next time a Republican is a duly-elected President, they should have the same ability? Perhaps the previous Congress should have passed a bill enabling the President to act unilaterally.
You act like Executive Orders are something that Joe Biden and the Democratic Party invented. Every President but William Henry Harrison has used them. And even he would have used them if not for the fact that he caught pneumonia on his first day in office and died of it on the thirtieth. And they've used the phrase "Executive Order" since Lincoln was President.
Again, what Jayapal advocated was that a massive piece of legislation to be made an EO. It would have dwarfed any EO.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:31 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, a duly elected representative suggested that a duly elected President use powers granted to him by both the US Constitution and the US Congress to do something your country needed.
Please explain why this is a problem.
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For one, it's anti democratic, just not anti Democratic. So you're okay with the anti democratic stance of Jayapal? Nope it's a power given to an ELECTED official
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm
Run with it, I suppose? If executive orders are a bad thing..that would be terrible news for Trump and Desantis, as examples of prominent nutjobs mentioned in thread.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm)Helios Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:27 pm)Dio Wrote: So the next time a Republican is a duly-elected President, they should have the same ability? Perhaps the previous Congress should have passed a bill enabling the President to act unilaterally. Oh don't be silly I highly doubt the next republican in charge will be elected and the Trump didn't need congress to do what he wanted his sycophants already let him essentially do what he wanted.
At least you did admit you have no problem with Democrats enacting legislation by executive fiat. Kudos. Why even have a Congress?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:41 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:39 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:35 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: You act like Executive Orders are something that Joe Biden and the Democratic Party invented. Every President but William Henry Harrison has used them. And even he would have used them if not for the fact that he caught pneumonia on his first day in office and died of it on the thirtieth. And they've used the phrase "Executive Order" since Lincoln was President.
Again, what Jayapal advocated was that a massive piece of legislation to be made an EO. It would have dwarfed any EO. The size doesn't matter the law nowhere says it has to be insignificant. The rules don't change because of the size.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:41 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm)Helios Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:31 pm)Dio Wrote: For one, it's anti democratic, just not anti Democratic. So you're okay with the anti democratic stance of Jayapal? Nope it's a power given to an ELECTED official
Making sweeping legislation law by executive fiat is not the power given to the President.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:42 pm
Indeed, why even have a congress if you intend to legislate by EO? You'll find this very question asked ad naus by nutjob supporters on nutjob boards.
There's a word for it.
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