(May 6, 2023 at 11:00 am)Angrboda Wrote: Skip on down to section 4, Philosophical foundations for analogical reasoning, and you'll find that none of them ultimately pan out in the type of analogical argument you are making.  It's poor form to argue on the basis of something which you freely admit you don't fully understand.

 
I believe God's existence shouldn't be a highly challenging philosophical task. That being said the sole fact that there is extensive literature about analogies makes your claim wrong (that it's useless and just used for illustration)

(May 6, 2023 at 11:00 am)Angrboda Wrote: If you are to be successful at one or more of the arguments from design that I posed in the form of questions, you're going to need to actually answer the questions, not simply offer vague assurances and promissory notes.

Since complex organisms can't be brought about without a creator, and since we have no good reason to assume evolution contradicts belief in creator, it's safe to say that belief in a creator is more than warranted

(May 6, 2023 at 10:06 am)The End of Atheism Wrote: But still all experience show that only personal agents produce things. It takes work to accomplish things. A fortiori, it took some agent's work to bring about this universe and all it contains

Why "only personal agents produce things" beyond your bald assertion?

(May 6, 2023 at 11:10 am)The End of Atheism Wrote:

(May 6, 2023 at 11:00 am)Angrboda Wrote: Skip on down to section 4, Philosophical foundations for analogical reasoning, and you'll find that none of them ultimately pan out in the type of analogical argument you are making.  It's poor form to argue on the basis of something which you freely admit you don't fully understand.

 
I believe God's existence shouldn't be a highly challenging philosophical task. That being said the sole fact that there is extensive literature about analogies makes your claim wrong (that it's useless and just used for illustration)

(May 6, 2023 at 11:00 am)Angrboda Wrote: If you are to be successful at one or more of the arguments from design that I posed in the form of questions, you're going to need to actually answer the questions, not simply offer vague assurances and promissory notes.

Since complex organisms can't be brought about without a creator, and since we have no good reason to assume evolution contradicts belief in creator, it's safe to say that belief in a creator is more than warranted

Ok, this god of yours must be very complex, who created him/her/it?

(May 6, 2023 at 12:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Administrator Notice
Speed bump: When a new member breaks the 30/30 rule by posting a link, veteran members may NOT re-post the link on the new member’s behalf. Doing so falls under the ‘protecting rule breakers’ restriction.

Boru

What is this rule for ? why can't new members post links, again this is an unfair rule to new members.

(May 6, 2023 at 12:28 pm)The End of Atheism Wrote:

(May 6, 2023 at 12:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Administrator Notice
Speed bump: When a new member breaks the 30/30 rule by posting a link, veteran members may NOT re-post the link on the new member’s behalf. Doing so falls under the ‘protecting rule breakers’ restriction.

Boru

What is this rule for ? why can't new members post links, again this is an unfair rule to new members.

It cuts down on spam, advertising, and general cuntishness.

On the contrary, it is completely fair to new members, as it applies to all new members equally.

Boru

(May 2, 2023 at 6:09 pm)The End of Atheism Wrote:

(May 2, 2023 at 6:06 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Violent language?  Were your little feelings hurt?

Nah this doesn't hurt me, but I don't like being insulted this way

Come to our house, shit on the rug, get pissy at us for telling you to clean up your mess, then get offended at some harsh language, What a PUSSY!

and each post by cunts with less than 30 posts arguing they should be allowed to post links counts as -100 posts for the purposes of meeting the 30 post threshold for posting links.

(May 2, 2023 at 6:33 pm)The End of Atheism Wrote:

(May 2, 2023 at 6:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: There was no violent language - ‘flushing’ means ‘banning’. 

You’re very stupid.

Boru

I'm aware of that, scumbag. She threatened me with a ban, but threats are illegal according to your rules, remember ?

Threats of violence or bodily harm, you mental midget.

Holy fuck, but you're thick!

(May 6, 2023 at 12:49 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: and each post by cunts with less than 30 posts arguing they should be allowed to post links counts as -100 posts for the purposes of meeting the 30 post threshold for posting links.

Oh, would that it were!

Boru