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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:10 pm
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(August 20, 2023 at 8:04 pm)Barry Wrote: (August 20, 2023 at 5:40 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Barry,
How is it you chose the ancient Babylonian deity, Yahweh, the son of El Elyon and the Genesis myths to be your god and scripture ?
Bball, it’s always lovely to hear from you.
I suppose I see no other rational option. Jesus Christ certainly influenced me.
If you come up with better evidence for our world existing I’ll ready to learn.
God loves you,
Barry
So then, you're agreeing a deity from the Babylonian pantheon created the universe.
Who created the hot dense material that banged, and then tell us how long it existed (if indeed space-time existed yet), and the tell us how you know what you claim you know.
Goodness. 19 guests. I b'lieve we have the Freshman Apologetics Class from Biola here.
You poor fools. Ask for your tuition back. LMAO
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RE: God exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:11 pm
(August 20, 2023 at 8:05 pm)Astreja Wrote: (August 20, 2023 at 7:52 pm)Barry Wrote: Hi Astreja
Tell me how you did it. Start with the Big Bang and work backwards.
Cheers Barry
Like I said, it's been a while...
- Noticed a quantum fluctuation in the nothingness that generated a virtual particle.
- Used it to toggle a bunch of cosmic "zeroes" into "1's."
- Assembled resulting particles into quarks and squished them together into a singularity.
- Watched them un-squish into a universe.
Something like that. 
Hi Astreja,
You are missing what caused the quantum fluctuation. You are not God! But I was almost convinced.
On a more serious note, you are clearly not God because you use an apostrophe for a non possessive plural. “1’s”.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:12 pm
None of you ever slow down, take a breath, and work to give a better account of your faith Barry. That's the real sin.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:17 pm
(August 20, 2023 at 8:10 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (August 20, 2023 at 8:04 pm)Barry Wrote: Bball, it’s always lovely to hear from you.
I suppose I see no other rational option. Jesus Christ certainly influenced me.
If you come up with better evidence for our world existing I’ll ready to learn.
God loves you,
Barry
So then, you're agreeing a deity from the Babylonian pantheon created the universe.
Hi Bucky, you should be renamed Tricky. I’m agreeing to Yahweh. But back to a real question. I’ve offered the Universe as evidence for God. Instead of coming up with a red herring, how do you think the Universe began. Walt Disney?
It’s easy to say that theists have the burden of proof. And then ignore the obvious proof. That’s very weak.
I’ve shown my hand. Show yours or fold.
God loves you
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RE: God exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:18 pm
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(August 20, 2023 at 8:01 pm)Barry Wrote: (August 20, 2023 at 5:36 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: And how, exactly, does the universe demonstrate the existence of any gawd, let alone yours in particular. Please be specific and do provide references.
ETA: Or, continue to refuse to provide any evidence for your assertions and be tossed on the slag heap with every other christer to pass this way.
Hi Raven,
God is not “mine”. God is.
What could be greater evidence that the universe coming into existence from nothing. How can you ignore that?
Cheers. Barry
As I have already pointed out, the name's Ravenshire, your arrogant presumption notwithstanding.
As for the rest, quit dodging. You been asked repeatedly for actual evidence for your claims. You twist, dodge, shake, rattle, roll, and attempt to shift the burden, but refuse to present any actual fucking evidence.
So, I'll repeat:
How exactly, does the universe demonstrate the existence of any gawd, let alone yours in particular. Please be specific and do provide references. Most of all, kindly quit flinging shit at the wall in hopes that it'll stick and demanding we prove your unsupported bullshit wrong.
If your unwilling to at least attempt to back up your claims, then kindly find some off and fuck it!
ETA: You might also consider reading for comprehension vs. rushing on to your next (imagined) "gotcha" comment.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:21 pm
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(August 20, 2023 at 11:38 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Let us just go back to the title of this thread. We pretty much all agree that good exists.
There, we can be done now. -it never ends until we figure out which one of them we're dealing with. They all slip, they're all compulsive. 
(August 20, 2023 at 7:52 pm)Barry Wrote: (August 20, 2023 at 7:44 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So, you MAY have created it, and I want to destroy it.
I'm the Anti-Astreja!
Hi Astreja
Tell me how you did it. Start with the Big Bang and work backwards.
Cheers Barry
Exactly. Tell us how god did it. Just stepping on rakes the whole way, huh? If that's what it would take to convince you that Astreja created the universe, it's clear that god hasn't provided you with such an explanation. So why do you believe it, again?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:23 pm
(August 20, 2023 at 8:10 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (August 20, 2023 at 8:04 pm)Barry Wrote: Bball, it’s always lovely to hear from you.
I suppose I see no other rational option. Jesus Christ certainly influenced me.
If you come up with better evidence for our world existing I’ll ready to learn.
God loves you,
Barry
So then, you're agreeing a deity from the Babylonian pantheon created the universe.
Who created the hot dense material that banged, and then tell us how long it existed (if indeed space-time existed yet), and the tell us how you know what you claim you know.
Goodness. 19 guests. I b'lieve we have the Freshman Apologetics Class from Biola here.
You poor fools. Ask for your tuition back. LMAO
Barry, were you not just criticizing someone for their English ?
"I'll ready to learn" is worse than an incorrect possessive.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:24 pm
(August 20, 2023 at 8:12 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: None of you ever slow down, take a breath, and work to give a better account of your faith Barry. That's the real sin.
Hi O Grand one,
Great advice. I’m trying to work on my own knowledge. I was just driving 3 grandkids to school and on the way to picking them up and after dropping them off I was listening to a 23 hour audio book on Catholic Apologetics. Just started it. And I’m also watching a 7 hour video series on the existence of god.
Chatting in this forum is actually helping me focus on the issues being discussed in these programs I’m studying.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:25 pm
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Good, work on your own knowledge. Let's see some of that in the thread shall we? Stop, please stop, saying silly shit. It disrespects you, it disrespects us, and it disrespects whatever fucking god you believe in.
Hell, I tried to save you seven hours (apparently) a bit earlier. Plantinga's modal ontological argument. There it is. That's the only one. There's nothing else. I can understand that you'd assume there were more...but there isn't. Learn that one, and you'll finally be able to checkmate some atheists. Sure, it won't describe why you actually believe. This is clearly not an issue for you anyway, given your previous comments...and yes, I'm entirely certain that you believe for reasons™ every bit as silly as the ones you've shared in thread - but there it is.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 20, 2023 at 8:26 pm
(August 20, 2023 at 8:24 pm)Barry Wrote: (August 20, 2023 at 8:12 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: None of you ever slow down, take a breath, and work to give a better account of your faith Barry. That's the real sin.
Hi O Grand one,
Great advice. I’m trying to work on my own knowledge. I was just driving 3 grandkids to school and on the way to picking them up and after dropping them off I was listening to a 23 hour audio book on Catholic Apologetics. Just started it. And I’m also watching a 7 hour video series on the existence of god.
Chatting in this forum is actually helping me focus on the issues being discussed in these programs I’m studying.
Cheers Barry
Your wasting your time.
But, it's yours to waste...
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